07-15-2006, 01:55 PM | #1 |
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Did Luke kill the guards in RotJ?
Alright, here's what I'm talking about: When Luke opens the doors to Jabba's palace, there are two Piggy guards. They stop Luke, then Luke chokes them...to death? Or did he just knock em out?
I guess what I'm wondering is: Is this the Jedi way? I can imagine Maul, Dooku, and certainly Vader doing that, but not Yoda or Mace etc...
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07-15-2006, 03:26 PM | #2 |
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He just stopped them from stopping him...
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I guess it must run in the family... But that is a good point, did he choke them? If he did is it the Jedi way?
I guess if he did (I haven't seen it in a while) that it would be a dark side thing, he is wereing black there.
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he chokes them? geez, huh? well I'll have to watch it again, I had it my mind that he simply used a mind trick on them, but he hadn't passed all of his trials at that time so 'technically' he wasn't a jedi yet. I don't know i'll have to watch it again,...in fact I think I should watch all 4 good SW movies while i'm at it.
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He chokes them a little. They fall on the steps and decide that they don't want to mess with him.
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Or maybe he was? Maybe he was tricking them into thinking they were being choked!
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well, luke kills plenty o' guards in battle, so maybe, but this does seem a tad different...dunno...maybe he knocked 'em out..."force sleep"?
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yeah, that's why i said he probably knocked em out...good call, hector...
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Naw, he killed them. I'd say though that he was justified: if he'd drawn his 'saber against them, he'd have created much more bloodshed then necessary for infiltrating the palace.
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why would it have been justified? they, as guards, were doing their jobs. how would killing them be justified, when he could just as easily knock them out?
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Whether they were doing their jobs or not, it doesn't matter, they were a deadly threat to our unarmed hero. Knocking some one unconcious is unreliable as they can wake up, a dangerous thing at times such as these.
Sure, with a blaster Luke could have taken them out just as quickly (let alone his lightsaber), but choking them was by far the most efficient way since he didn't want to have to fight at all if he didn't have to. |
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I never noticed that! I just watched that part looking for it specifically. I don't think he killed them. I think he just started to choke them so they would be scared and leave him alone. Maybe the mind trick wouldn't have worked as well because if he stopped concentrating or something they would have realized it was a trick and stopped him. Maybe he knocked them out or scared them.
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I watched ROTJ again a couple of days ago...yes, he just choked them a bit and they collapse and leave Luke alone. Suspect he just didn't want them tailing around after him.
I also figure it was meant to subtly imply Luke was already having a little trouble with the Dark Side. Go figure, given whose kid he was, and the fact he had already run off from Dagobah and interrupted training to save his buds. Yes, I know he had a good intention, but then so did Vader, in some respects, and look where it got him. Yoda told Luke if he left then, he would become an agent of evil.
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Good ideas here...just what I wanted. XRogue, excellent points about Luke's dark side potential, which had been on my mind.
Also, Orchunter X has reminded us that Luke did not have his lightsaber (remember, Artoo shoots it out to him in the Barge scene). I don't think he would have used it though, since he was keen on noisemaking just then. Perhaps it was a combination of wanting to instil fear in Jabba's court and a tad of dark side-ness.
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