This Is Huge

fatclown · 09-20-2001, 11:41 PM

MIDDLE EARTH IS EARTH. YUP YUP I KNOW U THINK IM CRAZY. But if you look at atlasas and evedance:

-most of elves leave, orcs die off, humans reighn, ents leave dwarves dwindle.

-if you look at geography you can see how the world slowly evolves into ours. The sunlands look suprisingling like North and south america. LIndon! (where london would be) HArad looks exactly like Africa. Easterlings (china and japan????) Mordor's mountains look very himalayean, and the south lands look very much like india.

I think this was a story that tolkein made in the scenario that the world once existed!

This brings a shining light onto the world of middle earth! please comment! Ill add more evidance

ringbearer · 09-20-2001, 11:46 PM

We all already knew that...because the stories are true!

fatclown · 09-20-2001, 11:47 PM

I KNEW IT

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 09-20-2001, 11:53 PM

Hey, where is Valinor? I want to go there.

fatclown · 09-20-2001, 11:53 PM

valinor is heaven, duh. now be a good elf and go worship manwe

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 09-21-2001, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatclown
valinor is heaven, duh. now be a good elf and go worship manwe

Well maybe you need to reread the Silmarillion. Valinor was on earth devided from Arda by the Great sea. So, if Tolkien fashoned Middle-earth after the real world, then Valinor is on earth. Heaven would be where Iluvatar lives in the timeless Halls.

Kyote Fields · 09-21-2001, 12:08 PM

But after the last of the elven ships sailed over the straight way (or the narrow way I forget which one it is - hint hint - straight and narrow...

)Then Valinor left the world forever. I was outside the world after the fall of Numenor already. This just finished it. I think Valinor on earth was kind or an Eden that humans (Numenors) lost after they tryed to userp God (the Valar).
Food for thought...

fatclown · 09-21-2001, 04:05 PM

goodness, i am quite aware of what valinor is. I was just joking around. No need to quote me on it either!

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 09-21-2001, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatclown
goodness, i am quite aware of what valinor is. I was just joking around. No need to quote me on it either!

That's ok fatclown. Btw, how did you know I was an elf?

Ñólendil · 09-22-2001, 02:17 AM

I don't know how he knew, I don't recall hearing it either, but I've always pictured an Elf when I see your name.

'Middle-earth' is indeed a mere Anglicization of an archaic word meaning 'the habitable land of Men'. The War of the Ring is supposed to have taken place 6000 years before History, so to speak. I often forget many assume Middle-earth is a different planet or something. We're supposed to be living in the Seventh Age. Sort of absurd, if you just think about the Truth (or Reality) we know.

ArwenEvenstar · 09-23-2001, 10:18 AM

so would Canada in some places (such as Prince Edward Island

) would be like the shire.........

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 09-23-2001, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ArwenEvenstar
so would Canada in some places (such as Prince Edward Island ) would be like the shire.........

I wonder. I have always pictured England, or Ireland to be the Shire.
I wonder where Mordor is?

***Ben*** · 09-23-2001, 03:04 PM

Geographically, if the part of Middle-earth involved in the story is Europe and a southern continent extends similar to Africa to the southeast of Mordor as in some maps, then Mordor would be the Middle-east

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 09-23-2001, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bmilder
Geographically, if the part of Middle-earth involved in the story is Europe and a southern continent extends similar to Africa to the southeast of Mordor as in some maps, then Mordor would be the Middle-east

At this point in time? How depressing.

Ñólendil · 09-23-2001, 09:34 PM

Cf. Nurnen and the Black Sea.

Eowyn, The Lioness · 09-24-2001, 06:05 PM

I have a theory that "dinosaur footprints" were really Orc footprints.

easterlinge · 09-25-2001, 01:42 AM

Hey, maybe those humanoid ape fossils said to be humanity's ancestors are in fact Orc bones.

Grishnakh was described as being rather ape-like.

Finmandos12 · 09-25-2001, 09:14 AM

Middle earth is actually the translation of the Norse word Midgard, from the old viking legends

fatclown · 09-25-2001, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ArwenEvenstar
so would Canada in some places (such as Prince Edward Island ) would be like the shire.........

No canada was in the sun lads. Middle earth was Asia, india, eruope and harad was africa...

fatclown · 09-25-2001, 10:10 PM

actually mordor is right above india- that means it consists of the himalayan mtns. The misty mtns are withered down to the urals and the mtns which gondor is on (white mtns??) are the alps..

09-20-2001, 11:41 PM	#1
fatclown Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 30	This Is Huge MIDDLE EARTH IS EARTH. YUP YUP I KNOW U THINK IM CRAZY. But if you look at atlasas and evedance: -most of elves leave, orcs die off, humans reighn, ents leave dwarves dwindle. -if you look at geography you can see how the world slowly evolves into ours. The sunlands look suprisingling like North and south america. LIndon! (where london would be) HArad looks exactly like Africa. Easterlings (china and japan????) Mordor's mountains look very himalayean, and the south lands look very much like india. I think this was a story that tolkein made in the scenario that the world once existed! This brings a shining light onto the world of middle earth! please comment! Ill add more evidance

09-20-2001, 11:46 PM	#2
ringbearer Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: St. Louis, Mo. USA Posts: 561	We all already knew that...because the stories are true! __________________ Ringbearer Hide Witch, hide! The Good Folks come to burn thee! Their keen enjoyment hid behind A Gothic mask of duty!

09-22-2001, 02:17 AM	#10
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	I don't know how he knew, I don't recall hearing it either, but I've always pictured an Elf when I see your name. 'Middle-earth' is indeed a mere Anglicization of an archaic word meaning 'the habitable land of Men'. The War of the Ring is supposed to have taken place 6000 years before History, so to speak. I often forget many assume Middle-earth is a different planet or something. We're supposed to be living in the Seventh Age. Sort of absurd, if you just think about the Truth (or Reality) we know. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

09-23-2001, 10:18 AM	#11
ArwenEvenstar Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: and why do YOU want to know? Posts: 685	so would Canada in some places (such as Prince Edward Island ) would be like the shire......... __________________ The only thing active about me is my imagination!

09-23-2001, 03:04 PM	#13
*Ben* Retired Ent Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 60,631	Geographically, if the part of Middle-earth involved in the story is Europe and a southern continent extends similar to Africa to the southeast of Mordor as in some maps, then Mordor would be the Middle-east __________________ ---Ben formerly known in the forums as bmilder Owner of The Tolkien Trail and Entmoot. Buy Entmoot shirts and mugs!

09-20-2001, 11:47 PM	#3
fatclown Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 30	I KNEW IT

09-20-2001, 11:53 PM	#4
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Hey, where is Valinor? I want to go there.

09-21-2001, 12:08 PM	#7
Kyote Fields Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: California Posts: 218	But after the last of the elven ships sailed over the straight way (or the narrow way I forget which one it is - hint hint - straight and narrow... )Then Valinor left the world forever. I was outside the world after the fall of Numenor already. This just finished it. I think Valinor on earth was kind or an Eden that humans (Numenors) lost after they tryed to userp God (the Valar). Food for thought...

09-21-2001, 04:05 PM	#8
fatclown Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 30	goodness, i am quite aware of what valinor is. I was just joking around. No need to quote me on it either!

09-23-2001, 09:34 PM	#15
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Cf. Nurnen and the Black Sea. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

09-24-2001, 06:05 PM	#16
Eowyn, The Lioness Enting Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: oh, somewhere... Posts: 81	I wouldn't doubt that Middle Earth wasn't earth I have a theory that "dinosaur footprints" were really Orc footprints.

09-25-2001, 01:42 AM	#17
easterlinge Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Farthest Khand, the darkest East... Posts: 442	Hey, maybe those humanoid ape fossils said to be humanity's ancestors are in fact Orc bones. Grishnakh was described as being rather ape-like.

09-25-2001, 09:14 AM	#18
Finmandos12 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 327	Middle earth is actually the translation of the Norse word Midgard, from the old viking legends __________________ The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

09-25-2001, 10:10 PM	#20
fatclown Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 30	actually mordor is right above india- that means it consists of the himalayan mtns. The misty mtns are withered down to the urals and the mtns which gondor is on (white mtns??) are the alps..

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