06-06-2006, 05:17 PM | #1 |
Sapling
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Scarcely Heard of the King in these parts
In the Hobbit one of the dwarves says they have scarcely heard of the King in these parts. Strictly speaking, the Kingdom of Arnor collapsed two thousand years earlier and so there was no legitimate king, but was there a king of some sort? If so, who would it have been? What happened to Angmar? Why did the Witch King abandon it instead of ransacking the shire and all of Eriador? On that note, would the "king" have been A deposed descendant of the last king in hidding, or a Troll left over from the realm of Angmar which won the war against Arnor?
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06-07-2006, 02:07 AM | #2 | ||
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I doubt that the king of the hobbits had anything to do with Sauron's forces. This is what letter #131 seems to imply:
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06-07-2006, 04:07 AM | #3 | |
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06-07-2006, 06:50 AM | #4 |
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TBQB - welcome to Entmoot!
Tolkien wrote that passage in "The Hobbit" long before he had even begun to conceive of the LOTR storyline or to work up the outline of the area's history. Even then - he sort of makes it fit. Hobbits tend to be "by the book" sort of people. So - they're adhering to the "King's Laws" one thousand years after the last king fell from power. To them, it's just the natural thing to do. So - there's no "king" per se, when Bilbo and the Dwarves are making their journey - but the 'cultural memory' of a king is quite strong to Bilbo - and any other Hobbit (and perhaps to the Dwarves as well - who are familiar with Kings of their own, and would probably like the orderliness that kings would bring to wild lands such as those).
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