11-25-2003, 11:31 AM | #1 |
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Nice article on "Return of the King" in the current Newsweek magazine. They have the 'map' all wrong though... Minas Tirith on the wrong side of the River Anduin, 'Rohan' in the wrong place, etc.
Still - neat to see the article. They DO show Aragorn leading an "Army of the Dead" - which some on this site have wondered about... |
11-25-2003, 03:30 PM | #2 |
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Yeah - and in the FIRST paragraph Newsweek gets facts wrong concerning the story.
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11-25-2003, 06:15 PM | #4 |
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Are they really?? I always thought they were brothers.
I have not read the article. I'll hafta find it and see.
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By the way - they have a "Ask Jeff Giles questions" on the Newsweek website - Secrets of ‘The King’...
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By the way - for those wanting the Scouring of the Shire in. This is the supposedly the reason it was cut...
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Re: Newsweek Article
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11-26-2003, 09:53 AM | #11 |
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The best thing about the article was the comment from the writer that LOTR is the first film franchise that, at the end, won't disappoint its fans ala Star Wars, The Matrix, Harry Potter, etc., etc., etc.
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11-26-2003, 02:23 PM | #12 |
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Let's hope not, anyway. ROTK is already going to have a very hard time living up to the hype as it is, and there's no telling what sort of a fevered-pitch it's all going to reach by December 17. The main problem with all those series was not so much they were/are bad, but that there was no possible way they could live up to and be the spectacle promised by the media. They were made out to be something they weren't.
I had low expectations going into Felowship and was pleased. I expected much more from TTT and was somewhat disappointed. I'm excited about ROTK, but I'm not about to be suckered into thinking it's going to be the best thing ever seen by humankind. Keep in mind, Newsweek is just trying to sell magazines and advertising; they're going to print whatever it takes to get people to buy.
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11-26-2003, 02:50 PM | #13 |
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Snap, zinnite. TTT disappointed after raised expectations from FOTR after low expectations after Bakshi.
Have set my expectations low for ROTK hoping to be pleasantly surprised. Thanks for the link. |
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As far as the Jackson comment, isn't what you're basically trying to tell us in every single post?
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Let me try to spell it out for you: A national new magazine doesn't put LOTR on the cover if they didn't feel there would be considerable public interest in their exclusive movie review.
The issue isn't whether they know anything about LOTR or not. It's simply that Jackson's LOTR films SELL magazines. |
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Anyway, back on topic for me... I think the pictures in the article look really good, and it leaves me thinking the film might not be a disaster. The article seems to be the standard pre-release hype, and I didn't read much of it. Maybe later.
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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
IIRC, they were also cousins. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by JerseyDevil Where does it say that? I have never read they were cousins. _________________________________________ As a rather obstruse point, Deagol and Smeagol being cousins seems to have become a sort of "urban legend", at least as far as I've been able to find, among just about everybody, including an entry by Robert Foster in the complete guide to middle-earth. The only sort of a source reference to a possible relationship I've been able to find is in Letters #214 (from a letter written in late 1958-early 1959): "Deagol, evidently a relative (as no doubt all the members of the small community were)" So, presumably, JRRT didn't have any firm concept of a definite family relationship of the two when writing LOTR? Curious, since I was previously virtually certain that I had read (in LOTR?) that Deagol and Smeagol were cousins.
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