09-12-2005, 05:22 PM | #1 |
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samwise the down trodden help!
Who here thinks that sam does all the work gets no praise, and then frodo bu**ers off and leaves him to go on holiday in a big boat!!!!
dam it first time i post a new thread and i put it in wrong listing, oh well no wonder us Nazgul never got the ring!!!!
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I think your right Sam is the real hero and the movies don't give him enough praise for being a hero (i assume you are refering to the films because in the books he sails to valinor later)
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09-12-2005, 05:33 PM | #3 |
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I did not know that sam went to valinor. thanks for telling me. i was thinking of the films but have read the 3 books twice but not all the extra bits, in fact not read the hobbit either
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yes it is in the appendices about sam sailing away
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09-12-2005, 05:51 PM | #5 |
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Get me right i love the books and i love films but the appendices seem to be a bit mind blowing, but back to Sam he is the unsung hero in book and in the films, we should start the SAM APPRECIATION SOCIETY.
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yeah sam pretty much owns, and he was cast very well IMO
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09-18-2005, 12:49 AM | #8 |
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Sam is awesome. Without him, Middle Earth would be Kaput. I don't think Frodo under-appreciates him, but most other people do, especially the other hobbits in the Shire! Sure they made him Mayor, but they don't really understand what he's been through.
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Sam under-appreciates himself, which is the leading cause of any Sam under-appreciation. IIRC, Sam was flabbergasted when Frodo suggested he run for mayor. Which he then did, and won, nine times. I guess he's pretty well appreciated after all.
Not to mention that, outside of the Shire, he and Frodo are regarded as the heroes of the Third Age. But other than that...
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09-27-2005, 08:57 PM | #10 |
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Actually, Frodo wasn't really regarded as a hero...and Sam was elected Mayor of Hobbiton like twenty times in a row...
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Oh, and I noticed something odd the other day. It was a pickup, with a name on the side: Gamgee Gardeners...I'm serious!
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10-06-2005, 04:15 PM | #13 |
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It probably had something to do with the fine armor and clothes they wore in "scouring of the shire", while Frodo planned and was in the background they rallied the people. Just a guess.
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and a guess most likely true...also, in the movie, i liked the "my friends, you bow to no one."..buy maybe i just like aragorn and viggo...anybody see viggo on the daily show? hilarious...
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But weren't the Baggins generally looked upon as "odd" anyway? (or at least after Bilbo's adventure right?)
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mostly just bilbo...as he was the only real baggins...and he was odd for hobbit standards...and they thought he was rich...
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Well but Frodo was a Baggins after Bilbo basically adopted him. So it seemed to the people in the shire that he was 'odd' like Bilbo after he went on that long adverture that they knew nothing of, and was quiet, unlike Merry and Pippen the major attention seekers.
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true, but Frodo left pretty soon after his return, so there weren't really any bagginses left to look upon as odd...
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12-21-2005, 10:26 PM | #20 |
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for a short time...also, christopher lee thinks sam is the real hero, and he's christopher lee! yay christopher lee!
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