01-26-2006, 12:39 AM | #1 |
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Entwives in Arnor?
I remember reading these lines in FOTR (shadow of the past):
"All right," said Sam, laughing with the rest. "But what about these Tree-men, these giants, as you might call them? They do say that one bigger than a tree was seen up away beyond the North Moors not long back." (and later on....) "What he saw was an elm tree, as like as not." "But this one was walking, I tell you..." It got me wondering: was this an actual Entwife sighting? After all, Treebeard said that the Shire was a land that the Entwives would have liked. But we never hear anything more of this. What think the Mooters( )?
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Nope, they were destroyed in the scorched earth policy by Sauron, IMO.
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Yet eighteen years later, in a letter to Douglas Carter, Tolkien doesn't rule their existence - only their reunion with the ents:
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01-26-2006, 12:20 PM | #4 |
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No, it does not say that all of them has been destroyed.
By Tolkien's definition the possibility of their survival exist. Some, of course, may have fled east, or even have become enslaved... If any survived so, they would indeed be far estranged from the Ents, and any rapprochement would be difficult.. Some, of course, may fled west through the gap of Rohan, for example, and made their homei n the woods at the heels of Blue Mountains. Then, on another hand, it also could be a stray huorn Unexpected encounter |
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02-05-2006, 11:35 PM | #6 |
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Entwives in the Shire?
In one of the very first chapters Sam mentiones that one of his cousins (IIRC) saw a walking tree. I always interpreted the scene as meant to convey to us that Sam is gullible. But then TreeBeard seems convinced that the Entwives would have loved the Shire. Do you think it is possible that it was indeed an entwife?
Are ents an almost completely forgotten part of hobbits' lore? Do we know where the entwives went? EDIT: I did some looking around and found this interesting link Last edited by The Wizard from Milan : 02-06-2006 at 12:01 AM. |
02-06-2006, 12:13 AM | #7 |
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The entwives live! Oh yes, the entwives definitely live; I'm a believer. I, too, think they were the mysterious trees that were seen in the Shire.
That's a fantastic link, BTW, Wizard! I'm loving it.
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There was a thread on this recently, and nope, I'm not a believer. From aforementioned thread:
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02-06-2006, 06:26 AM | #9 |
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Merging...
Maybe the Entwives were put to work in the agricultural area of Mordor - the Nurn, and were still at it 3000 years later. They might have been growing the crops to keep Mordor's armies fed.
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You can find the most extensive research on the entwives on this page:
http://www.minastirith.com/ubb/ultim...;t=001541;p=19 |
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