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Religious Knowledge Thread
I thought about putting this in the offshoot religion thread, but it didn't really seem like it would fit.
Anyway, this is a thread for people to ask questions about other religions (Questions which are NOT meant to be debasing or offensive in any way) or faith/denomination. If I was wrong to create a new thread, then some mod just close this, and I'll bop myself for stupidity and repost in the offshoot discussion. Anyway, I have questions for Catholics, Jews, and Wiccans. 1. This one actually originated from my mom; she thought that 'bless me, father, for I have sinned' made little sense. I think that it means that the confessing person needs to be blessed because they have sinned. Catholics, am I right or wrong? 2. The Jews pretty well consider Jesus to be one of the prophets, right? 3. Wiccans worship a God and Goddess, right? Do they have names?
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I thought this might not be the sort of stuff for the religion offshoot thread. We'll have to wait to see with whom the mods agree.
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03-07-2003, 09:53 PM | #4 |
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No i think this is a good idea.
I cant really speak for the first two questions and Im not Wiccan but from what I understand Wiccans can focus on "The Goddess" which basically represents the earth or they can also simply focus on nature as a force and an entity. Which is why so many times you hear the term "tree worshipers". But maybe the actual wiccans should come out of the wood work (he he...) and explain a little better.
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So do I, which is why I started the thread.
Hmm? I thought they worshipped a Goddess and a God?
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Paganism by definition is an open ended spiritual philosophy. One may worship oaks. another may worship a horned god. another may worship nothing at all but just be in touch with nature on a spiritual sense. theres no boundries and rules like there are with the big three.
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For what its worth, I think this thread is perfectly appropriate. It's the Offshoot of the Offshoot discussion of the what religion are you thread
I'm not Jewish or Catholic or Wiccan so I can't anwser any of your questions but I have a few of my own. Unfortunatly I'm having a temporary brain freeze and can't think of any of them.
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Tree huggers......why? They never hug back.....
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Re: Tree huggers......why? They never hug back.....
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I guess my point was that pagans dont follow one specific dogma but are free to follow their own path of spirituality.
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Hey I read Drawing Down The Moon ok! *laugh* And Margo Adler says that paganism is anything that isnt covered by the big three religions basically. So i am dubious when people try to define it. And I dont see how you can say its NOT spiritual at all. Are you going to tell those self labled pagans who worship wood and stone "excuse me but you guys arent pagan. sorry." I only speak from the experience of living with half a dozen or so pagans for a while. None of them were alike. They all had their own weird rituals and ideas about their path. some had crystals every where. some painted their faces and wore strange clothes. some used tons of drugs to reach a spiritual place (hey whatever it takes to rationalize a good time I say) and some were hard core business grad students who happened to think they could tap into certain animal totums and spirits to help guide them through their every day life. But they all called themselves pagans and were part of a significant pagan community in their area. so whose to say they are all wrong?
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Ah, so you consider atheists to be Pagan?
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Isn't it 'Inquisitors'?
Anyway, I don't think Pagan; I might say heathen, but more likely heretical.
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For some stange (or maybe fashionable reason) Paganism and Spirituality became mixed up in the last century (Wiccan was only invented in the last century). Neither worship is wrong IMO (A god/goddess/spirit does not have to be old to be revered) Basically Spiritualism is the worship of a being (spirit) that is bound to a physical form....be it rock, tree or totem pole (and numerous others). Paganism is the worship of a being(s) (spirit/god/wotever) that is unbound to the physical realm. |
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And here I was thinking that Paganism was the belief in all pantheons. So confused...
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so whats an example of a true modern pagan then?
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