Wraiths

me9996 · 12-30-2004, 09:57 PM

Just for a talk about wraiths, if no one else understands them...

And barrow wights!

me9996 · 01-02-2005, 12:30 PM

Wraiths are as invisable as ringwraiths dispite menny pictures of them...

me9996 · 01-04-2005, 09:20 PM

Will some one plese say something!?!?

Ezora · 01-06-2005, 02:38 AM

I think the ringwraiths are cool, apart from the fact that they are evil... there is only one problem, in the movie some of the horses look brown!!! oh well...

Attalus · 01-07-2005, 07:30 PM

Look here for a very full and still active discussion of the Ringwraiths.

me9996 · 01-08-2005, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Attalus

Look here for a very full and still active discussion of the Ringwraiths.

Sorry, this is for all wraiths, not just ringwraiths.

ItalianLegolas · 01-08-2005, 05:51 PM

you know, originally there were Elf-wraiths as well as Ringwraiths, there were supposed to be many Elf-wraiths, but they wandered over all Middle-earth and were not under the control of Sauron

Attalus · 01-08-2005, 07:28 PM

If you refer to the Houseless, as JRRT referred to them in HOME 10, I am not quite sure if they fall under the definition of wraiths as JRRT described them. They are not enslaved creatures bound to a Ring or any magical object, but simply stubborn elves whose fëar have outlasted their hroar.

ItalianLegolas · 01-08-2005, 07:58 PM

No, i'm talking about HOME 6, somwhere in 'From Hobbiton to Woodyend'

me9996 · 01-09-2005, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Attalus

If you refer to the Houseless, as JRRT referred to them in HOME 10, I am not quite sure if they fall under the definition of wraiths as JRRT described them. They are not enslaved creatures bound to a Ring or any magical object, but simply stubborn elves whose fëar have outlasted their hroar.

No! I mean wraiths like what the lead ringwraith tried to turn frodo into!

Does no one know what I am talking about?

Telcontar_Dunedain · 01-09-2005, 05:50 PM

I think I do, but where in Tolkien's works does it say that any existed?

me9996 · 01-09-2005, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telcontar_Dunedain

I think I do, but where in Tolkien's works does it say that any existed?

Strider said that frodo would turn into a wraith like the ringwraiths but weaker.

That's my evadence!

Radagast The Brown · 01-09-2005, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me9996

Strider said that frodo would turn into a wraith like the ringwraiths but weaker.

That's my evadence!

It doesn't mean that there is one, it means that they could be one.

ItalianLegolas · 01-10-2005, 12:21 PM

i think it would be possible to ahve a Hobbit-wraith... they would just be extremly small!

Attalus · 01-11-2005, 02:44 PM

A Hobbit-wraith as described would be just as the Nazgûl, as we are informed in the FotR, but weaker and under their control. So, presumably, would be a Man or a Dwarf stabbed with a Morgul-knife that stays in the wound. An Elf, I am not sure. Probably so, but I have my doubts.

Billy Bones · 01-11-2005, 03:36 PM

What if Gollum was stabbed by a Morgul blade he'd be even more spazy than he already is

Telcontar_Dunedain · 01-11-2005, 04:08 PM

Gollum would just become a wraith. Even though the Ring has had an effect on him, he wasn't actually a wraith.

me9996 · 01-12-2005, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radagast The Brown

It doesn't mean that there is one, it means that they could be one.

Okay so this tread is hipothedacil, heipothread, hiponthreadiskilled, I can't spell but I hope you get the idea.

me9996 · 01-12-2005, 05:28 PM

I think this tread is going to go through meny pages before we prove anything about their existence.

But I will keep posting as stubern as a dwarf!

Telcontar_Dunedain · 01-12-2005, 05:28 PM

Well it's kind of difficult to discuss something that didn't actually exist.

01-06-2005, 02:38 AM	#4
Ezora Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 20	I think the ringwraiths are cool, apart from the fact that they are evil... there is only one problem, in the movie some of the horses look brown!!! oh well... __________________ Legolas: this is a good horse! Gimli: lets take it and get out of here, it smells terrible!!! Legolas: Ok, now to put my luggage on... (Legolas puts 10 full backs on the back of the horse) Gimli: where am I going to fit! Aragorn said only to take important stuff! Legolas: But this stuff is important, These three bags have my manicure things, and these five bags have things for my hair, and these one and a half bags have my perfume and the last half a bag has my food! Gimli: Elves.

01-07-2005, 07:30 PM	#5
Attalus Swan-Knight of Dol Amroth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the Bay of Belfalas Posts: 1,125	Look here for a very full and still active discussion of the Ringwraiths. __________________ "What song the Sirens sang, or what name Achilles assumed when he hid himself among women, though puzzling questions are not beyond conjecture." - Sir Thomas Browne, Urn Burial.

01-08-2005, 05:51 PM	#7
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	you know, originally there were Elf-wraiths as well as Ringwraiths, there were supposed to be many Elf-wraiths, but they wandered over all Middle-earth and were not under the control of Sauron __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-08-2005, 07:28 PM	#8
Attalus Swan-Knight of Dol Amroth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the Bay of Belfalas Posts: 1,125	If you refer to the Houseless, as JRRT referred to them in HOME 10, I am not quite sure if they fall under the definition of wraiths as JRRT described them. They are not enslaved creatures bound to a Ring or any magical object, but simply stubborn elves whose fëar have outlasted their hroar. __________________ "What song the Sirens sang, or what name Achilles assumed when he hid himself among women, though puzzling questions are not beyond conjecture." - Sir Thomas Browne, Urn Burial.

01-08-2005, 07:58 PM	#9
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	No, i'm talking about HOME 6, somwhere in 'From Hobbiton to Woodyend' __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-09-2005, 05:50 PM	#11
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	I think I do, but where in Tolkien's works does it say that any existed? __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

01-10-2005, 12:21 PM	#14
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	i think it would be possible to ahve a Hobbit-wraith... they would just be extremly small! __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-11-2005, 02:44 PM	#15
Attalus Swan-Knight of Dol Amroth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the Bay of Belfalas Posts: 1,125	A Hobbit-wraith as described would be just as the Nazgûl, as we are informed in the FotR, but weaker and under their control. So, presumably, would be a Man or a Dwarf stabbed with a Morgul-knife that stays in the wound. An Elf, I am not sure. Probably so, but I have my doubts. __________________ "What song the Sirens sang, or what name Achilles assumed when he hid himself among women, though puzzling questions are not beyond conjecture." - Sir Thomas Browne, Urn Burial.

01-11-2005, 03:36 PM	#16
Billy Bones Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Skull rock Posts: 24	What if Gollum was stabbed by a Morgul blade he'd be even more spazy than he already is __________________ dont do it behind the garden gate cus love is blind but the neighbour aint

01-11-2005, 04:08 PM	#17
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Gollum would just become a wraith. Even though the Ring has had an effect on him, he wasn't actually a wraith. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

01-12-2005, 05:28 PM	#20
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Well it's kind of difficult to discuss something that didn't actually exist. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

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