01-21-2002, 03:33 PM | #1 |
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Favourite Valar?
My favourite Valar would have to be Aule. He created the substances of earth and devised many new things for the world. I also liked how he didn't mind sharing his secrets to the Noldor, and how he gave freely to all. He's sort of like what Melkor might have been if he had not been so corrupted by hate.
Whose your favourite Valar?
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01-21-2002, 06:22 PM | #2 |
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I have two: Nienna and Yavanna. I mean, if I was a Maia I'd serve those two. Their realms of authority go with my interests and values very well.
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01-21-2002, 07:23 PM | #3 |
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Varda, and Yavanna. Because Varda made the stars, and if you're an Elf like myself than Varda is the girl. Yavanna for all the pretty growing things and the Two Trees. You should have seen them. They were beautiful.
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01-21-2002, 07:31 PM | #4 |
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Ulmo of course!
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01-22-2002, 12:02 AM | #5 |
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My favorite Valar
Orome. The hunter of monsters. He loved Middle Earth most and left it unwillingly. He loved dogs and horses, trees and forests. If he was less strong than Tulkas, he was more terrible in his dispatch of the fell beasts he hunted in Iluvatar's Middle Earth. He'd even been known to appear in the earlier days of Middle Earth with his dogs and horses blowing his great horn rustling up a few nasties. He was a regular Balrog-kicking, Melkor-cleaning machine! I'd love to see and hear a Balrog haul ass as he squeals away in the dark abyss in terror of Orome's whip. Yeah, maybe there will be a Jackson-level film or two for The Sil. Oh yeah!
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01-22-2002, 12:21 AM | #6 |
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Ulmo for me too! He's lord of the seas! And he's different from the other Valar, more reclusive and independent. Varda is of course cool as well.
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01-22-2002, 12:25 AM | #7 |
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Tulkas.
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01-23-2002, 05:55 PM | #8 |
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Tulkas, definitely. He was a barrel of laughs.
In the old days, before the hubby went bad, we used to have a rollicking good time together.
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01-24-2002, 03:56 AM | #9 |
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I like Ulmo.
He's more independent, but he's one of the good guys. He may not be hanging out with the other valar alot, but he has a very good relationship with the elves, especially the sea elves. |
01-24-2002, 11:50 AM | #10 |
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Yes, deep and fathomless are his thoughts which run often to the rivers and rills and he speaks to those who dwell in Middle-earth with voices that are heard only as the music of water.
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01-24-2002, 12:53 PM | #11 |
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The best of Valar is Manwe because he has the most influence of all the valar.
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01-24-2002, 05:06 PM | #12 |
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Nienna who cares for all and Nessa of whom I wish she had been more prominent in the silmarillion. Although Ulmo is one of my favorites too.
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01-29-2002, 01:16 AM | #13 |
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melkor
i thought his music was better that illuvitar's.
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01-29-2002, 03:31 AM | #14 |
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To MasterMothra
How very nice of you to join us, John.
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01-29-2002, 09:35 AM | #15 |
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Melkor is not one of the valar he's been expunged from their noble company.
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01-29-2002, 11:44 PM | #16 |
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sorry sirithdal, you must have me mixed with someone else.
valar , ainur , whats the diff.
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02-01-2002, 11:16 PM | #17 |
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Mandos, but not by far. He seemed to be the most wise because he was somewhat removed from Arda, if you catch my meaning.
Remember when the Valar decided to summon the Elves to Valinor and Mandos said "So it is doomed"? That's all. It took me a second time reading it to see how prognostic his statements were. He said little, but it was like a revelation that doesn't make sense until it happens.
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02-08-2002, 04:39 PM | #18 |
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You've got to love Mandos. His knowledge, prophesies, killer stuff man. Nor did he ever seek to increase his own power over others or speak the future unless bidden by Manwe.
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02-14-2002, 01:28 PM | #19 |
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My favorite Valar has to be Melkor/Morgoth. He was the mightiest of the Valar, and the entire company of his younger "siblings" could not really kick his hinder. Melkie-boy ran roughshod over all of Middle-Earth for centuries, swatting pesky elves and men out of his way and in general causing the entire population east of the Belfalas loose the contents of their bowels any time he even THOUGHT about coming out his house to patrol the hood.
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02-14-2002, 05:56 PM | #20 |
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I am so splilt between:
Ulmo: god of the seas,loner, helper of teleri, visitation of tuor tulkas: wrestler dude, loved beating up melkor, barrel of laughs orome: discovered elves, led them to the island, monster hunter, horse rider so hard to choose, I thought manwe was too poncy and aule does not have much to do with story after creating dwarves, (correct me if wrong)
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