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He thinks that the Cipher Diaz guy is the same a Dooku. Obi-Wan thought Cipher Diaz was dead similar to the way that Luke though his father was dead. He thinks that Dooku made the clones so he and Palpatine could take over the universe. He believe that Dooku joined the rebellion so that he could wipe them out. If he joined the enemy he could be able to know where they are. Is this making sense?? |
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Who is Sifo-Dyas?
I thought in the interest of more focused discussion, we could branch out the issues brought up in the review thread.
Who is Sifo-Dyas, the Jedi Master that the Kaminoans say placed the order for the clones? He died around 10 years earlier, which is also the approximate time of TPM. Who else died then? Qui-Gon Jinn and Darth Maul. We know that there was no one named Sifo-Dyas on the council in TPM, so either he left before that or the Kaminoans were misinformed. The obvious answer would be Sidious, especially considering that the character was originally named "Sido-Dyas." But was the change to avoid confusion or make it less obvious? And did Sidious kill the real Sifo-Dyas and steal his identity, or was there any real one at all? An intriguing theory I heard is that it's Qui-Gon. He placed the order and then couldn't ever come back, because obviously he's dead. Qui-Gon was Dooku's apprentice, so maybe it was as a favor for him, and he didn't realize that Dooku had crossed over to the dark side. Yoda and Mace definitely look like they know Sifo-Dyas's identity, but are concealing information from Obi-Wan. I'm not sure I buy the theory, but it sounds cool.
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That's one of the posibilities I'm contemplating, emplynx.
It does not, however, remove the possibility of Darth Sidius himself or Darth Maul. ' I guess that's what we need to wait 3 yrs for...
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05-19-2002, 04:25 PM | #4 |
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That IS a cool theory! Very, very possible too. It goes along with Qui-gon's penchant for independent thinking as well.
Are Sifo and Sido brothers? (Or even twins?)
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This whole situation is very confusing, and Harry Knowles's new Episode II review does a very good job at explaining it to the fullest extent (obviously, some information is just not known yet). It helps clear up the whole Dooku thing as well.
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I bet you anything you like, that it's not going to be that obvious. George has never failed to surprise me yet. However, the Qui Gon Jinn theory does have its merits. He WAS the Padawan of Dooku, so there is a definate link there. Interesting.
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I guess my theory at this point is that Dooku used Sypher-Dias (or whatever)'s identity to order the clones, so no one would end up knowing who really did it, and Jango was lying.
Who was the guy at the beginning with Padme? Was he the guy with the patch, or was he one of the clones, or did he just look similar? I wasn't sure if he was a bad guy in disguise or a good guy that just looked like one of the bad guys. |
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They're both NZ actors. One is samoan, and the other is maori. Completely different, trust me.
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I'm definately going to have to see it again to get all these characters straight!
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05-19-2002, 10:21 PM | #10 |
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The guy with the eye patch is Captain Typho. He's the new Captain Panaka.
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I think I read somewhere that Typho is Panaka's nephew.
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05-20-2002, 05:53 PM | #12 |
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Hmmm...
Qui-Gon is a Shiskebob, and Darth Maul is mincemeat, so I'd say that those two are ruled out. Palpatine operates under the Sidious Moniker, and Count Dooku used the 'lord tyrannus' to hire Jengo Fett, so I'd say that those two are somewhat unlikely. Although, personally, I'd hope it's qui-gon, myself. Liam neeson is cool.
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After a 5th viewing, I noticed that after the shot of Anakin beheading ther 3rd Tuskan and next scene cuts to Yoda talking to Windu about Anakin's pain, I hear Quigon's voice from Episode I where he calls "Anakin!" which I think was when he first duels Maul in the desert of Tattooine.
Any chance of Quigon's spirit desperately trying to stop Anakin from going on the path to the Dark Side?
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I wondered who said that!
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Sifo dias was origionally an unknow person but for some reason lucas decided to change the name slightly to avoid complicating it. I dont have a clue where qui gon is going to play into this. very intresting that he never disapread upon death like obi wan and yoda.
Anakin says one day he will learn to stop people dieing. maybe sidious knows how to stop people dieing and brought qui gon back to life! bit far fetched i know but i feel he will have to play into this sumhow.
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On stopping people from dying, maybe it happens by his act of killing the Emperor, hence ending the Empire and war (of course after helping it along for some 30 to 40 yrs).
Pretty much the same with bringing balance to the force.
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Depends on your definition of "balance". It could also be taken to mean balancing the good by introducing the evil into the galaxy. Yeah, I know, doesn't really wash, but I thought I'd bring it up anyway... 2am, can't sleep....
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i never understood this balance thing. Is balance equal parts it seemed that it was all in favor of the light side of the force
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I believe he bring balance by being in the dark side.
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