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Eärniel, I have a question that I thought would be too trivial for a PM on its own. How do you pronounce 'Rijksmuseum'? The 'Rijk' is sort of like English 'rake', niet waar? I have no idea how to pronounce the 'museum' bit, what with your weird pronunciation rules and whatnot. Dank je!
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which sound is the toughest for you? The "k" sound?
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Oh no, the Dutch 'k' is exactly like a 'c' in the English word 'car'. That's one of the easiest.
It's the vowel sounds that can be terrible to explain to English-speaking people. At least, in my experience. There are so few vowels that sound the same in Dutch as in English. Especially the combinations that aren't used in English are hard to find a proper English counterpart-sound. For the Dutch sound 'ui' for example, I have yet to find a suitable English corresponding sound.
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You don't know the IPA for 'muh-zay-jum', do you? Is the 'uh' like book? I'm just curious because English speakers tend to pronounce 'ij' as my. So 'Rijk' is pronounced the same way as we would pronounce 'Reich' (the 'ch' is pronounced as 'k' since we don't have that sound) Quote:
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I can understand it's hard to explain Dutch pronunciation but I think you're doing great Eärniel. By your explinations I understand well (I think) how "rijksmuseum" is pronounced. But then it doesn't sound too different when compared to my own language . When I was in Belgium, my teacher said "just pronounce every Dutch name as you would in Swedish and you'll do fine". And we did fine
Speaking of the Rijksmuseum, I saw a few Dutch painters (van Gogh, Rembrandt, Vermeer) at the National Gallery in London. Great stuff.
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Oh, cases... Though English has some weird cases of its own too, e.g. 'It is him' <-- accusative case instead of nominative like other languages. Did you read that article on Finnish? I can't recall which language has some 16 cases... Some African language has dozens of cases. Eep. Quote:
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Fraiement? Je n'avais aucune idée. On apprend quelque chose tous les jours. Tu sais, pour moi tous les languages scandinaviennes sont les mêmes. Je ne peux pas dire la difference. Je pense que, pour moi, elles sonnent tout comme le chef suédois du muppet show.
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Bork, bork, bork!
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You could be right, I remember one instance where I and some class mates were listening to a muslim clasmate talking about her family. We tried to pronounce some of the names of her family members but there were some very gutteral sounds that we just couldn't really get our tongue around. Of course, we thought we were getting close while our friend looked at us with a mixture of amusement and downright pity.
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