Entmoot
 


Go Back   Entmoot > J.R.R. Tolkien > The Silmarillion
FAQ Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-14-2003, 01:53 AM   #161
Dúnedain
High King of Númenórë
 
Dúnedain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Númenórë <--United States of America
Posts: 1,947
This thread is way too long for me to catch up on, lol. However, today I finished reading this in Unfinished Tales, and if you've read that version the details are so much greater. I really enjoyed reading it again with more details present. I think pound for pound it is one of the best stories I've come across in the world of Tolkien. There are many that I love and many that are great, but I just can't help to feel so much for the characters involved in this tale. I think the story of Turin's life is top notch
__________________
'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.'

'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

"Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!"
--Linaewen
Dúnedain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2003, 11:40 AM   #162
Ruinel
Banned
 
Ruinel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: I have no idea.
Posts: 5,441
Quote:
Originally posted by Dúnedain
...However, today I finished reading this in Unfinished Tales, and if you've read that version the details are so much greater.
I have to agree. If for no other story, this is the story that UT is worth reading for. So little is mentioned in The Sil compared to UT.
Ruinel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2003, 12:49 PM   #163
Lalaith
The Elvish Temptress
 
Lalaith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 3,055
I love the UT version.
__________________
What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.
Lalaith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2003, 08:30 PM   #164
Ruinel
Banned
 
Ruinel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: I have no idea.
Posts: 5,441
Quote:
Originally posted by Lalaith
I love the UT version.
The Sil is great, but for details it is best to go to the other books, like UT. UT version of Túrin and Nienor rocks!
Ruinel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2003, 05:16 AM   #165
Lalaith
The Elvish Temptress
 
Lalaith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 3,055
Isn't in the UT a longer version of Galadriel and Celeborn, too. A explanation and different versions and so on ....
__________________
What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.
Lalaith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2003, 09:14 AM   #166
Linaewen
Fair Dinkum
 
Linaewen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,319
Quote:
Originally posted by Eärniel
Sssssht you silly ninnyhammer! She'll hit you with her admin stick! Ask RÃ*an, she's been there before. Run while you still can! Fly you fool!
No. I will stand tall. I know SGH is lovely and kind and wonderful. Aren't you?
Linaewen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2003, 10:48 AM   #167
Sister Golden Hair
Queen of Nargothrond
Administrator
 
Sister Golden Hair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Akron, Ohio - USA
Posts: 7,121
Quote:
Originally posted by Linaewen
No. I will stand tall. I know SGH is lovely and kind and wonderful. Aren't you?
Sure I am.
__________________
"Whither go you?" she said.

"North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes."

AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey
Travel and Tourism Guide
Sister Golden Hair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2003, 10:59 AM   #168
Linaewen
Fair Dinkum
 
Linaewen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,319
Quote:
Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Sure I am.
Haha! I knew I would get it out of you! (SGH contradicted herself, Nyah nyah!)
Linaewen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2003, 11:21 AM   #169
Sister Golden Hair
Queen of Nargothrond
Administrator
 
Sister Golden Hair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Akron, Ohio - USA
Posts: 7,121
Quote:
Originally posted by Linaewen
Haha! I knew I would get it out of you! (SGH contradicted herself, Nyah nyah!)
Well, not really. I was being sarcastic.
__________________
"Whither go you?" she said.

"North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes."

AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey
Travel and Tourism Guide
Sister Golden Hair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2003, 11:33 AM   #170
Linaewen
Fair Dinkum
 
Linaewen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,319
Quote:
Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Well, not really. I was being sarcastic.
Well sorry . It's somewhat difficult to tell whether someone is being sarcastic or not when they are TYPING it!

I still maintain that you are nice. Hah! You said so yourself (stuff sarcasm) and I refuse to believe that any Tolkien fan could be so mean.
Linaewen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2003, 12:19 PM   #171
Sister Golden Hair
Queen of Nargothrond
Administrator
 
Sister Golden Hair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Akron, Ohio - USA
Posts: 7,121
Quote:
Originally posted by Linaewen
Well sorry . It's somewhat difficult to tell whether someone is being sarcastic or not when they are TYPING it!

I still maintain that you are nice. Hah! You said so yourself (stuff sarcasm) and I refuse to believe that any Tolkien fan could be so mean.
Ok, I'll take your word for it. I'm nice.
__________________
"Whither go you?" she said.

"North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes."

AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey
Travel and Tourism Guide
Sister Golden Hair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2003, 01:35 PM   #172
Lalaith
The Elvish Temptress
 
Lalaith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 3,055
One special thing about a Turin and Nienor movie would be seeing little Lalaith.
__________________
What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.
Lalaith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2003, 08:17 AM   #173
Linaewen
Fair Dinkum
 
Linaewen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,319
Quote:
Originally posted by Lalaith
One special thing about a Turin and Nienor movie would be seeing little Lalaith.
Who, may I mention, DIES at age three.
Linaewen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2003, 08:18 AM   #174
Lalaith
The Elvish Temptress
 
Lalaith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 3,055
Quote:
Originally posted by Linaewen
Who, may I mention, DIES at age three.
You are a mean little human.
__________________
What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.
Lalaith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2003, 08:49 AM   #175
Jonathan
Entmoot Attorney-General,
Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator
 
Jonathan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 3,891
Quote:
Originally posted by Lalaith
You are a mean little human.
I think Lalaith the Elf uses the word 'human' as an insult. That kills me
__________________
An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written.
Jonathan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2003, 08:53 AM   #176
Lalaith
The Elvish Temptress
 
Lalaith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 3,055
Quote:
Originally posted by Jonathan
I think Lalaith the Elf uses the word 'human' as an insult. That kills me
Yes, I do! But only because Linaewen has been a very cruel little person.
__________________
What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.
Lalaith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2003, 09:14 AM   #177
Linaewen
Fair Dinkum
 
Linaewen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,319
Quote:
I think Lalaith the Elf uses the word 'human' as an insult. That kills me
She dares to call me cruel? See what she does to others, such as poor Jonathan.

Quote:
Yes, I do! But only because Linaewen has been a very cruel little person.
Wrong. I am a cruel, tall, Half-elven being.
Linaewen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2003, 09:18 AM   #178
Lalaith
The Elvish Temptress
 
Lalaith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 3,055
Quote:
Originally posted by Linaewen
She dares to call me cruel? See what she does to others, such as poor Jonathan.


Wrong. I am a cruel, tall, Half-elven being.
no, Jonathan is an adorable human beeing. my little Faramir He is not as cruel as you are.
__________________
What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.
Lalaith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2003, 09:28 AM   #179
Jonathan
Entmoot Attorney-General,
Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator
 
Jonathan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 3,891
Quote:
Originally posted by Lalaith
no, Jonathan is an adorable human beeing. my little Faramir He is not as cruel as you are.
Thanks for the kind words. But you state that I'm human. And as I said before, you call the people you want to insult 'human'. So what you said could be considered mean
It's like saying "Oh what a nice little orc". That is more of an insult than a compliment.

EDIT: Isn't this discussion just a little off-topic?
__________________
An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written.

Last edited by Jonathan : 04-16-2003 at 09:31 AM.
Jonathan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2003, 09:31 AM   #180
Linaewen
Fair Dinkum
 
Linaewen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,319
Quote:
Originally posted by Jonathan
Thanks for the kind words. But by calling me Faramir, you state that I'm human. And as I said before, you call the people you want to insult 'human'. So what you said could be considered mean
Faramir is the best! It is no insult to be called him!
But, alas, she probably is insulting you.
Hey, Jonathan, I was nice to you to! (Erm.. at some point)
Linaewen is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Chapter 21: Of Turin Turambar Beor The Silmarillion Project 37 12-03-2018 07:13 AM
Character Analysis: Hurin and Turin Telcontar_Dunedain The Silmarillion 13 10-12-2009 04:20 PM
Free Will and Turin Turambar Tuor of Gondolin The Silmarillion 46 12-07-2004 01:51 AM
Annuals of Beleriand Melko Belcha Middle Earth 4 04-13-2003 10:22 AM
Túrin and The Second Prophecy of Mandos Maedhros The Silmarillion 4 02-24-2003 10:35 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(c) 1997-2019, The Tolkien Trail