Riddling IV - Page 9

CAB · 05-29-2010, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith K

Not one of my best efforts, but I wanted to use the subject somehow...then I got tired trying to make it interesting - so you guys can just have it as it is...

My first move was to remove, This affected the fates of many.
For my next feat I kept the mouths of the south at bay.
Finally I gave refuge, before I was swept far away.

Good luck, riddlers!

I'm stumped on this one too. It sounds like some of Gondor's rulers to me (removed the capital, "mouths" of the Harad, gave refuge to the people of Rohan, lost at sea), but not just one in particular who did all of this.

***Valandil*** · 05-29-2010, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith K

Not one of my best efforts, but I wanted to use the subject somehow...then I got tired trying to make it interesting - so you guys can just have it as it is...

My first move was to remove, This affected the fates of many.
For my next feat I kept the mouths of the south at bay.
Finally I gave refuge, before I was swept far away.

Good luck, riddlers!

Tagging onto what Thurin had said, I wondered about the (5) Ship-Kings. But I wasn't sure that all the pieces fit.

EllethValatari · 05-29-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Thurin

I am going to guess Gandalf. He was known to be constantly moving and could have been described by Tolkien as a "Great light".

No, and for the same reason as the previous guess. I'm playing off of what Tolkien usually uses light to signify (good), and using it to signify something not necessarily good.

CAB · 05-29-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EllethValatari

No, and for the same reason as the previous guess. I'm playing off of what Tolkien usually uses light to signify (good), and using it to signify something not necessarily good.

Hmmm....How about the Eye of Sauron, then?
It was constantly moving, was certainly "not necessarily good" but could still be compared to a "light", and was physically "round" too (or so I assume).

EllethValatari · 05-29-2010, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Thurin

Hmmm....How about the Eye of Sauron, then?
It was constantly moving, was certainly "not necessarily good" but could still be compared to a "light", and was physically "round" too (or so I assume).

You got it! Great riddling!

Keith K · 06-01-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilhelm

This sounds like it has something to do with water - mouths could refer to river mouths. Swept away could be a water thing as well.

I'll need a clue before I could even hazard a guess.

Water is a good place to begin in solving this poor riddle.

Keith K · 06-01-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Thurin

I'm stumped on this one too. It sounds like some of Gondor's rulers to me (removed the capital, "mouths" of the Harad, gave refuge to the people of Rohan, lost at sea), but not just one in particular who did all of this.

It would be best for both you and Val to sail over and embrace Wil's water concept. Also, this is a First Age riddle. That should help narrow things down a bit.

Wilhelm · 06-01-2010, 08:28 PM

This is tough... I may be forcing my answer to fit the clues. This is the same answer I gave re EllethValatari's Eye of Sauron riddle so maybe I'm stuck on this answer but here goes...

Earendil

His first move was to be removed from Gondolin after it was sacked. He sought refuge at the Mouths of the Sirion in South Beleriand.

He was ultimately swept away on Vingilot in to the heavens to become the Evening Star.

As far as the additional clues go... Definitely a first age story and you did work in the word "Sail" - Earendil was a mariner.

.

Keith K · 06-01-2010, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

This is tough... I may be forcing my answer to fit the clues. This is the same answer I gave re EllethValatari's Eye of Sauron riddle so maybe I'm stuck on this answer but here goes...

Earendil

His first move was to be removed from Gondolin after it was sacked. He sought refuge at the Mouths of the Sirion in South Beleriand.

He was ultimately swept away on Vingilot in to the heavens to become the Evening Star.

As far as the additional clues go... Definitely a first age story and you did work in the word "Sail" - Earendil was a mariner.

.

It is not Earendil, although he would have been intimately, and personally familiar with the answer that I seek. Nice argument on trying to fit the clues, despite the fact it is incorrect. Please try again.

Wilhelm · 06-04-2010, 09:53 PM

I'm stumped. I can't even figure out if it's a person, place or thing that you're looking for.

Are you willing to provide additional clues?

Keith K · 06-05-2010, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

I'm stumped. I can't even figure out if it's a person, place or thing that you're looking for.

Are you willing to provide additional clues?

Well, it's not your fault that I posted such an unrefined, and poorly written riddle. In the meantime it would probably be helpful to look for the solution on a map of Beleriand.

I promise to write a better riddle next time. Thanks for guessing along.

Wilhelm · 06-05-2010, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith K

Well, it's not your fault that I posted such an unrefined, and poorly written riddle. In the meantime it would probably be helpful to look for the solution on a map of Beleriand.

I promise to write a better riddle next time. Thanks for guessing along.

I had a hunch that it was something geographical but chose to ignore my own inkling. I briefly thought the answer might be Beleriand itself. It's not a poorly written riddle I just couldn't identify a solid thing to grab hold of.

Still a long guess but...

The Isle of Balar

It was reputed to be a piece of the larger Tol Eressëa that was REMOVED when Ulmo pulled the rest of the island away.

It was in the bay of Balar near to the moth of the Sirion (moths of the south at bay)

It received the refuges from the Havens (gave refuge) and it slipped under the sea some time after the first age (swept away)

Keith K · 06-05-2010, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

I had a hunch that it was something geographical but chose to ignore my own inkling. I briefly thought the answer might be Beleriand itself. It's not a poorly written riddle I just couldn't identify a solid thing to grab hold of.

Still a long guess but...

The Isle of Balar

It was reputed to be a piece of the larger Tol Eressëa that was REMOVED when Ulmo pulled the rest of the island away.

It was in the bay of Balar near to the moth of the Sirion (moths of the south at bay)

It received the refuges from the Havens (gave refuge) and it slipped under the sea some time after the first age (swept away)

Yes, Balar is correct. I had always thought that it would be a great subject for a riddle. A moving island... That's pretty cool.

Also, it should be noted that the isle removed the Light Elves from Middle Earth and brought them to Valinor.

EllethValatari · 06-20-2010, 02:38 AM

*raises the Riddling Thread from the depths of the Middle Earth forum

Anyone have a new riddle? I'd make one up myself but it's 2 am here and I'm sure it would be horrid...

Keith K · 06-23-2010, 05:16 PM

Here's a riddle:

Seventh of seven, hallowed and holy.
Tallest of all, the rest are more lowly.

A light to unite, where once were old bones.
Now long removed from under the stones.

Midge · 06-24-2010, 12:21 AM

It's not Elendil? I'm not well-versed on my Ancient stuff, but that Tallest of all part makes me think of him.

Wilhelm · 06-24-2010, 06:12 PM

Elendil is a good guess - I can see how it would fit in many ways.

I know that Keith will be looking for explanations for your solution.

I heartily encourage you to fill these in.

Keith K · 06-24-2010, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Midge

It's not Elendil? I'm not well-versed on my Ancient stuff, but that Tallest of all part makes me think of him.

Hello Midge, it's nice to see you here in the Riddling thread again!

While the solution is not Elendil, it is definitely a Dunedain riddle, what with the sevens and all.

Also, always remember, ...you must be prepared to fit all of the clues to officially solve a Keith K riddle.

Greetings to you as well, Wilhelm! I concur with your comment.

Wilhelm · 06-24-2010, 06:36 PM

If Midge hadn't guessed Elendil I'm not sure I would have thought of my guess. If I'm right the credit goes to Midge.

I think the answer is Elendil's tomb! Amon Anwar. The 7th and tallest of the beacon hills, hallowed and holy as it contained the remains
of Elendil. It is the place where the alliance between Gondor and Rohan was formed (light to unite). Elendil's remains (old bones) were moved to Minas Tirith.

And greetings to you Keith. Another excellent riddle I might add.

I'm glad to see this thread has started up again.

Keith K · 06-24-2010, 07:11 PM

Well dang. You edited your original comment which I was witness to. Anyway, you solved the riddle in the course of your edit! Congratulations, You have found the solution!

It is also known as Halfirien, sacred to the Rohirrim as the site of the Oath. For it was to Amon Anwar, the Hill of Awe, that Eorl the Young was taken by Cirion, Steward of Gondor to swear the Oath. That place was the burial site of Elendil.

It was chosen by Isildur, High King of the Dunedain, for its more or less central location in the Kingdom of that people, and was a hallowed site that only the Kings (and those who accompanied them) were wont to tread.

The bones of Elendil, the last Lord of Andúnië, were later removed to Minas Tirith, and eventually Halfirien was defended as part of Rohan, even though it technically belonged to Gondor.

Well done, Wil.

06-01-2010, 08:28 PM	#168
Wilhelm Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Area 51 Posts: 116	This is tough... I may be forcing my answer to fit the clues. This is the same answer I gave re EllethValatari's Eye of Sauron riddle so maybe I'm stuck on this answer but here goes... Earendil His first move was to be removed from Gondolin after it was sacked. He sought refuge at the Mouths of the Sirion in South Beleriand. He was ultimately swept away on Vingilot in to the heavens to become the Evening Star. As far as the additional clues go... Definitely a first age story and you did work in the word "Sail" - Earendil was a mariner. . __________________ Stand, Men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom. Last edited by Wilhelm : 06-01-2010 at 08:30 PM.

06-04-2010, 09:53 PM	#170
Wilhelm Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Area 51 Posts: 116	I'm stumped. I can't even figure out if it's a person, place or thing that you're looking for. Are you willing to provide additional clues? __________________ Stand, Men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom.

06-20-2010, 02:38 AM	#174
EllethValatari Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: United States Posts: 401	*raises the Riddling Thread from the depths of the Middle Earth forum Anyone have a new riddle? I'd make one up myself but it's 2 am here and I'm sure it would be horrid... __________________ Elleth Valatari "We have come from God, and inevitably the myths woven by us, though they contain error, will also reflect a splintered fragment of the true light, the eternal truth that is with God. Our myths may be misguided, but they steer however shakily towards the true harbour, while materialistic 'progress' leads only to a yawning abyss and the Iron Crown of the power of evil." — J.R.R. Tolkien

06-24-2010, 12:21 AM	#176
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	It's not Elendil? I'm not well-versed on my Ancient stuff, but that Tallest of all part makes me think of him. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

06-24-2010, 06:12 PM	#177
Wilhelm Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Area 51 Posts: 116	Elendil is a good guess - I can see how it would fit in many ways. I know that Keith will be looking for explanations for your solution. I heartily encourage you to fill these in. __________________ Stand, Men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom. Last edited by Wilhelm : 06-24-2010 at 06:33 PM.

06-23-2010, 05:16 PM	#175
Keith K Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: charlotte, n.c. Posts: 1,081	Here's a riddle: Seventh of seven, hallowed and holy. Tallest of all, the rest are more lowly. A light to unite, where once were old bones. Now long removed from under the stones.

06-24-2010, 06:36 PM	#179
Wilhelm Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Area 51 Posts: 116	If Midge hadn't guessed Elendil I'm not sure I would have thought of my guess. If I'm right the credit goes to Midge. I think the answer is Elendil's tomb! Amon Anwar. The 7th and tallest of the beacon hills, hallowed and holy as it contained the remains of Elendil. It is the place where the alliance between Gondor and Rohan was formed (light to unite). Elendil's remains (old bones) were moved to Minas Tirith. And greetings to you Keith. Another excellent riddle I might add. I'm glad to see this thread has started up again. __________________ Stand, Men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom. Last edited by Wilhelm : 06-24-2010 at 06:39 PM.

06-24-2010, 07:11 PM	#180
Keith K Elf Lord Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: charlotte, n.c. Posts: 1,081	Well dang. You edited your original comment which I was witness to. Anyway, you solved the riddle in the course of your edit! Congratulations, You have found the solution! It is also known as Halfirien, sacred to the Rohirrim as the site of the Oath. For it was to Amon Anwar, the Hill of Awe, that Eorl the Young was taken by Cirion, Steward of Gondor to swear the Oath. That place was the burial site of Elendil. It was chosen by Isildur, High King of the Dunedain, for its more or less central location in the Kingdom of that people, and was a hallowed site that only the Kings (and those who accompanied them) were wont to tread. The bones of Elendil, the last Lord of Andúnië, were later removed to Minas Tirith, and eventually Halfirien was defended as part of Rohan, even though it technically belonged to Gondor. Well done, Wil.

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