12-03-2005, 03:18 PM | #161 | |
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The group that will go to technology quicker than you can shake a tree bough is the elves. Everytime you turn around, one of them is at a forge, possibly burning wood (Treebeard shudders at that). Worse still, they might be burning coal (probably high sulfur since even today there is not the technology to filter all of that out). Elves will turn to metal-smithing every chance they get, and everyone knows metal-smithing is one of the roots of all evil. Capitalists, every one of them. Making jewelry, weapons, material of war. "No such eradication of Morgoth was possible, since this required the complete disintegration of the 'matter' of Arda. Sauron's power was not (for example) in gold as such, but in a particular form or shape made of a particular portion of total gold. Morgoth's power was disseminated throughout Gold, if nowhere absolute (for he did not create Gold) it was nowhere absent. (It was this Morgoth-element in matter, indeed, which was a prerequisite for such 'magic' and other evils as Sauron practiced with it and upon it.) ... For example, all gold (in Middle-earth) seems to have had a specially 'evil' trend..." - Myths Transformed, Morgoth's Ring, p. 400 |
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12-03-2005, 07:03 PM | #162 | |
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As for the right stair not opening into the First floor gallery, it was a renovation thet was done prior to the ML's appearance at Tharbad. The former Librarian always stayed in the Library and didn't want students going from the Scriptorium to venture into his rooms. Maybe the door is there, but always locked. Maybe it is filled in. Another prior improvement, made when the Tower was assigned to hold the Library, was the building of the solid wall across the Ground Floor Hall and making a back entrance to the tower. Thus the separate "Public Library" appeared. Actually, guys, the Evil Cartographer has improved the Library plan. Please, have a look here: http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a337/Gor-Dis/Lib2.jpg Udu, I always thought Elves were the bane of Middle-Earth! They are responsible for the Ring project, the Silmarils, the Palantiri...Even Orcs were literally made of them! Without the Golug, life would have been much better! |
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12-03-2005, 07:10 PM | #163 | |
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12-03-2005, 07:33 PM | #165 | |
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NOW - I have a lot of reading 2 do...
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12-03-2005, 07:48 PM | #166 |
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Great posts, Udu & Earniel, except that I have 2 say, it really DOES seem unreasonable that the library should be so intensely restricted. Gordis, I love the new map you drew. Minas Aran looks like so much fun to be able to explore, a real fantasy exploring place. You guys remember thelibrary as depicted in the film, the one in Minas Tirith that Gandalf went to that one time? Like that, but even cooler.
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12-03-2005, 08:12 PM | #167 |
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*falls over and dies* Gah....not feeling well and am withdrawing for a while...not quiting, just ghosting. I have lots to think about and do for the time being. Sorry.
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12-03-2005, 08:13 PM | #168 |
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Thanx, Lotesse, the Library will be a fascinating place for exploration.
All the libraries with rare handwritten books are bound to be restricted. In our case the Public Library will be open all day long, and the Scriptorium, or the reading-writing room of the main Library will be open from 9 till 18. Reasonable? |
12-03-2005, 08:20 PM | #169 |
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Most definitely!
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12-03-2005, 08:26 PM | #171 |
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I will try, and no, i dont want to dissapoint Viv at all. Or you for that matter. But I am still dead.
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12-03-2005, 08:34 PM | #172 |
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Sane , but seriously! You can't do that to us!
If you can give an estimate of the length of your absence, please, send (or let Val send) Ray and Marty somewhere, for some time. For instance, to carry an urgent message to Annuminas? Must take a week rpg-time. Or just send them hunting - one day Rpg-time. Or better send them on a boat trip, then Vivvie and Lily will not even consider to go with them. Please, Sane! Vivvie, and to an extent Lilly and Val, are restricted in their posting, as no one knows what Ray and Marty are doing. What do you think, Sane? And you, Lotesse? |
12-03-2005, 08:36 PM | #173 |
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Shah - Maybe you SHOULD send the boys off hunting or fishing, that's a good idea. But don't make it for longer than an RPG day, because we all know an RPG day lasts like a month real time, and I'd totally lose interest in this story if you were gone for even longer than a week never mind a whole freakin' month.
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12-03-2005, 08:40 PM | #174 |
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As you wish, I will ask Val to send the two off on something or other, I wont be gone long, maybe a few days. If that, I just gotta go meditate.
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Also saw that I had not yet changed Oreturion's title in that post away from 'chancellor' - so I did so (anyway - hey, I used it first! ).
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12-04-2005, 06:11 AM | #176 | |
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Thanks for editing, Val.
I have gone through it. But, I believe, you missed the word "tabloids" in #2. Quote:
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12-04-2005, 08:26 AM | #177 |
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Serenoli, I see you are on-line. Why won't Tolvadoc come and see Mahtaliel again at 6 PM, after her sword-smithing lesson?
By the way, after leaving the Library (also around 6 PM), Earniel and Rian most likely will go see Mahtaliel, to say thank-you for letting them into the library. So you are bound to meet all three. Isn't it a good opportunity to discuss possible jobs in Tharbad? The Chancellor said you had to pay fifteen gold Elendils a month - a great sum of money, to be admitted as post-doc. . So you will have to get a very well-paid job. |
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Yes - the new library plan was nice. I wasn't certain until you told me before that those were stairs going from Ground Floor to First Floor (I always have to think about this when I write it - here in America, we generally call the Ground Floor the First Floor). I've "dropped the ball" on this one, LMM - but I guess we'll have to wrap up the conversation between Oreturion and Mahtaliel. (EDIT: OK LMM, I had Oreturion wrap up what he came to say. You may add something yourself, with appropriate responses from him, as you say your farewells.)
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12-04-2005, 02:26 PM | #179 |
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My internet connection has been down most of the weekend so I haven't been able to get on and check out everybodies posts.
Gor, I have to go out for a bit in five minutes but I will do required editing when I get back. And shouldn't there be a door in Galadannun's apartment that leads to the stairs that go up to the Scriptorium and down to the Main library, otherwise there is no door in or out of his apartment, other than the secret door that nobody knows about.
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TD, glad you are back! Your interview with Udu is long-awaited!
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Hmm, it is the funniest representation of stairs I have ever seen. But, sorry, the Evil Cartographer can't do better, he isn't a Good Architect after all! Last version of the Library http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a337/Gor-Dis/Lib3.jpg |
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