10-15-2002, 04:55 PM | #161 | |
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10-15-2002, 05:09 PM | #162 | |
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Okay - I will. Okay - so I thought you were sending that information to me. I could have swore there was a "JD" in your post somewhere. I still feel the site is biased. It's almost as bad as the Islamic websites that BoP used to post.
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10-15-2002, 05:12 PM | #163 |
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Me and my lasswere having one of our in depth conversations about how media can affect our perspective of life (hey its better than hearing about shoes all the time) she made a good point how the media can distort things to an extent. In this country we have the red tops and if i read them they pretty much tell a person what to think. Its quite sad. I myself read the times very respectable paper apprentally wish it wasnt so bigg i have problem reading it on the toilet but that doesnt matter.
I am still waiting to hear a reason for attacking Iraq which does involves 'if' 'buts' 'maybes' and 'possiably'. As the suppoded most civilised countrys in the world (allthough i doubt this by looking at the way some people act in my town bunch of muppets baseball caps who invented them) we should not attack unless there is a clear danger? Has sadam ever made a agressive move against the US he invaded quaiate he had no intrest with america till they got involved (rightly so) and since then has he killed anyone in hostile action that wasnt war (wars wars all bets are off killings allowed so that dont count)
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10-15-2002, 05:20 PM | #164 | |
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I am still waiting to hear a reason for attacking Iraq which does involves 'if' 'buts' 'maybes' and 'possiably'. Very good point |
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All I can say is, at least I was attempting to present BOTH sides of the propaganda argument. I can't believe you. You rant about bias, and yet you only seem to post stuff from American news sources. Does anyone else smell a rat?
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10-15-2002, 05:40 PM | #166 |
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JD is the most pro american american ive ever known. Do you find any faults with your country? He doesnt even mind that they dont have a health serivce for everyone
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10-15-2002, 05:44 PM | #167 |
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In the interests of s***stirring:
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10-15-2002, 05:50 PM | #168 | |
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I know that I personally do not trust the mainstream american media to give accurate information, how can I respect the views of the three biggest american TV channel news when they themselves decided that prime time television should not be interupted by the presidents address to the nation |
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10-15-2002, 05:55 PM | #169 | |
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10-15-2002, 06:58 PM | #170 |
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one reason could be that the networks are primarily concerned with making profit, which means airing commercials so that viewers could buy things they don't need with money that don't have (possibly a definition for "advertising")
and since prime time air is expensive, better to air braindead sitcoms for a population that would only tune out any presidential address
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10-15-2002, 07:04 PM | #171 | |
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I find a lot of faults with my country. Not have national health care isn't one of them. If you knew anything about America, whihc by talking to you guys I know you don't, we do have programs for people that can not pay for medical treatment. No one gets turned away from hospitals or doctors. They may not get the same level of service as someone with insurance or who can pay - but neither does Canadians or British. I have looked at international news sources - as I have said repeatedly - they only report the portion of US news that supports the publiucs view (case in point the BBC). BoP - you get ABC now? Do you get Nightline and World News Tonight then? I have been to England twice - so I've seen your newscasts also - have any of you been to the US to actually experience America first hand? And just because Cirdan mentioned it was on CNN doesn't mean it actually was. If there was a CIA spy on the inspectors team and he ADMITTED it - there would be some news story about it on the web somewhere. No one has produced anything that supports this, In the last Iraq thread we were at the same point. You guys were arguing that the US should consult it's allies and go to the UN. Well we did that. Now the weapons inspectors are going to be going to Iraq. Just admit it - when Saddam Hussein kicks them out again or prevents them from doing their job - you will still think the US has no reason to do anything about him. I have said that I'm not necessarily for the war or against the war right now. I WANT to see what happens with the weapons inspections. When it was first announced that we were going to go after Iraq - I was VERY much against it. But look what our threats did - Iraq has agreed to let weapons inspectors in. Would he have if the UN got down on it's hands and knees and begged like it was before? No - of course not. As Teddy Roosevelt said - "Speak softly but carry a big stick." The thing is Hussein only understands the big stick. We've threatened him with the big stick and we will continue to threaten him. If he doesn't comply we will use it. I'm not ashamed of being patriotic. Supporting a stand you believe in though has nothing to do with being patriotic though. I do support the process that we are going through and if Hussein does not give the inspectors unfettered access like he's supposed to - then I will support the war also.
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10-15-2002, 07:11 PM | #173 |
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i don't have cable, and most people i know don't either... i refuse to pay money to watch commercials
don't have the stats on this, but maybe someone here does: what percentage of the tv viewing public in the usa has cable? and of that percentage, how many tune in to political programs?
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JD, have you ever thought about running for congress? You'd be quite good at it.
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We still have not started a war with Iraq. Chances are there will be. He's not going to let inspectors in.
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10-15-2002, 07:34 PM | #177 | |
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The BBC has, and still does, operate the biggest international news service , the World Service, are you saying that this bias is carried to the majority of the world capable of recieving radio transmissions ..................... if so then why does this not directly affect the world?.......tune your radio to the World Service.........I think you'll find it to be incredibly unbiased. The World Service is broadcast in 37 different languages internationally, no other company provides that kind of converage. If Saddam "kicks out" the inspectors then surely the problem of Iraq becomes an international problem.........the world knows this but why is America so willing to make it their own personal problem |
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The only reason the UN decided to pick up the issue was because we said that it was time for the Un to prove that it was not irrelavent and that if they didn't handle the problem we would. Hasty Ent - C-Span broadcasts over the net. Also - a lot of news organisations broadcast over the net. Since you're on Entmoot - I must assume you have access to the net. You can also get all or most of the President's Speeches off of Whitehouse.gov
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Show me the money, JD. Give me, and the rest of us, proof that there are WMD in Iraq. I don't want conjecture or speculation... I want actual proof.
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