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03-09-2004, 10:54 AM | #163 |
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i'm curious... i can't seem to remember the logic behind why jesus' crucification was necessary for the salvation of man?
i understand many of you could write a novel on the subject... but what does it boil down to?
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Racism and prejudice are indeed common in society; that doesn't mean anyone should just have to put up with it. I very much hope this film isn't anti-semitic, but I wish that wasn't where all the attention was going, though. The Crucifixion is not about Christians' attitude to Judaism, and that shouldn't be the issue. This film should be about God, and I hope Mel Gibson remembered that (the film isn't out here yet, so I haven't seen it. Not sure if I will yet).
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03-09-2004, 02:51 PM | #165 |
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I dont want to interrupt anyone, but I just watched this film, and it was incredible. It surpassed all my expectations, and it was accurate to the finest detail I could pick up. Also, it made me realise what Christ actually went through, Son of God or not, and that, I think, is the whole point. I loved it, and I cant wait till I can buy the actual dvd.
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Mankind fell into sin by disobedience - and could not redeem itself... we had to suffer the doom of sin - eternal separation from God. God is all-loving and wanted to redeem mankind to Himself. God sent His Son (a 'part of Himself'? The 'Trinity' concept can be both simple and profound) to live among us... so that He could live a holy life, and then suffer the penalty for sin as though He had sinned. Jesus Christ therefore offered atonement for our sin. He took the punishment that we deserved for our sin, so that we don't have to take it - if we accept His suffering on our behalf. The cosmic balance of justice was restored... Jesus had lived without sin and suffered for sin, so that we, though trapped in sin, might be spared the penalty of our sin. Further, He cleans us from our sin, that we might stand before the Father - clean not because of what we have done, but because of what He has done.
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thanks for the susinct description... i appreciate brevity at times
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I have yet to see it. It looks very good though....True, for a change.......I mean, i watched that Judas movie last night and it was TERRIBLE.......the Passion of The Christ
looks way better.
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I don't know why, but there seems to be a lot of stuff (unduly negative stuff) going around about this movie. Whew! I walked into the grocery store, and every magazine was raving about how 'violent' it is. Some people seem to feel that the film focuses too much on gore and violence. Well, repectfully, it is called The Passion of the Christ because that's what it's about.
I have no qualms with people picking on movies for what they do not contain- such as LOTR. The movies leave out a lot, and that annoys some of us fans of the books, mostly because PJ claims to have stuck close to Tolkien, when in reality, he's told his own brand of the tale. I can understand people getting a little miffed at that. However, Mel Gibson's film claims to be a movie about the last 12 hours of the life of Jesus Christ. He didn't say it was going to contain the Sermon on the Mount or the back-story of the Virgin Mary or the Feeding of the Five Thousand. It contains what it says it does. So why are peopl so worked up about it only containing Jesus's torture and crucifiction? Also, when you want to talk about blood and gore- what about Gladiator? Or The Patriot, when he hacks that one guy to pieces? What about Saving Private Ryan? The opening scenes of this movie are horrific- because that's what really happened in WWII. So Mel Gibson wants to show us what really happened to the Savior of the world, and he does. It's not supposed to be some kind of large-scale Easter play where you see a little bit of red food-coloring here and there and a velcro cross. It's history. And it's rated 'R' for good reason. If people don't want to see a movie that shows this kind of stuff, than simply don't go see it. I, personally, don't get why people are saying that you could get traumatized if you're faint-hearted, or whatever. I myself was thinking as I watched the movie that it was not as gory as I thought it might be- WHY?! Because I've been desensitized by watching this kind of stuff on other movies! And none of those movies are made out to be some kind of invading monster. I think people have a deeper problem with this film then that.
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Hey did you guys hear? Gibson has made a sequel already. Its called The Passion of the Christ II: Resurrection.
Apparently its going to debut on easter... *bu dum bum* do you think Jamie Lee Curtis will have a role in it?
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so you caught me ...No, of course I'm not, just the ones who have been unjustly spiteful of this movie without having seen it.
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I am probably going to see it this weekend. My father saw it, and when he came home, he was really pissed off. (Just for the record, we're Jewish.) Anyway, he said it was just really anti-Semetic and portrayed the Jews in a way that is untruthful. He saw it at an early screening, with a bunch of religious leaders. Even priests and ministers and such said that it was unrealistic in that aspect.
But most people don't think that the movie is anti-Semetic. I'm guessing that's because most people don't really know about the anti-Semetism in the past. Passion plays have started pogroms that have killed thousands of Jews. Passion plays have kept anti-Semetism alive in Europe for centuries. It's not as if this is the first major act of anti-Semetism in a while - this just brings it over to the US, and not just in Europe. I know, a lot of people leave and don't feel any hatred against the Jews. But did people hear about the people in some southern state who were carrying signs around town that said stuff like, "The Jews Killed Jesus!!!"? I know that it wasn't intentionally made to be anti-Semetic. I know Mel Gibson isn't some freakish anti-Semite. But the message of the movie is anti-Semetic for those who understand why. And for Christheads who can't think for themselves. "Yeah, the Jews killed Jesus... cuz... Mel Gibson says so!!!" Anyway, I hope to see it this weekend, so I can back up my facts.
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No Hector, I will NOT edit that comment out. 'Mooters need to see exactly what they're voting for. It wouldn't be honest.
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