02-27-2006, 02:16 PM | #161 |
The Black Númenórean
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,773
|
What can you expect? He's Vulcan. Anyways...I'm strange. I've given up trying to have relations with men for anything other than physical dilliances. I find it very very hard to get attached to any man. Though, admitedly its pretty hard for me to get attached to anyone....It's easier for me to get attached to my female partners. Which is quite annoying.
__________________
Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams. |
02-27-2006, 02:33 PM | #162 |
Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!)
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Not where I want to be ...
Posts: 15,254
|
Lotesse - do you have any response to my posts #150 and #113, which were in response to some things you posted?
Maggie - yes, I see what you're saying. Maybe the best solution is to say that everyone is just sexual! (but maybe there are some people that aren't ... ) And I like how you point out the importance of the person involved. I think sometimes with all the throwing around of terms, the sex part gets more weight than it has in reality.
__________________
. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
02-27-2006, 02:44 PM | #163 |
of the House of Fëanor
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 6,150
|
Rian - No, not right now. I do not like to argue pointlessly and relentlessly in sensitive threads like this one here. It always discolours my day and makes me feel icky. Not only that, but if I had anything to say to these old posts, Rian, I would have responded to them right after you posted them, not days later in retrospect. So, nope.
__________________
Few people have the imagination for reality.
~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
02-27-2006, 02:49 PM | #164 | |
An enigma in a conundrum
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 6,476
|
Quote:
Lotesse and LSP ...sigh... This is another case of ."Shaka, when the walls fell." Discussing is fine and debating is fine. Revealing yourself on a www board is not the best of courses to take. It could have been handled via PM (the more specific details). Rembember, everyone, WE are friends, but others can drop in, so guard public postings accordingly.
__________________
Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Last edited by Spock : 02-27-2006 at 02:58 PM. |
|
02-27-2006, 02:51 PM | #165 |
The Black Númenórean
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,773
|
That is true, and another reason I never fully reveal things on a chatboard....Anyways....yeah, I'm out of this thread for a bit.
__________________
Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams. |
02-27-2006, 03:03 PM | #166 | |
of the House of Fëanor
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 6,150
|
Quote:
__________________
Few people have the imagination for reality.
~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
|
02-27-2006, 03:05 PM | #167 | |
of the House of Fëanor
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 6,150
|
Quote:
__________________
Few people have the imagination for reality.
~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Last edited by Spock : 02-27-2006 at 03:10 PM. |
|
02-27-2006, 03:06 PM | #168 |
An enigma in a conundrum
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 6,476
|
...ahhhhhh the voice of restraint and reason.........
__________________
Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." |
02-27-2006, 03:13 PM | #169 | |
The Black Númenórean
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,773
|
Quote:
WHAT?!?!?!?! Persians had nothing to do with Bur'qas! We have Chadors and scarves, but not Bru'qas! The name itself is Arabic! Persians did not create Islam, they were run over by it. And as for Homosexuality in the Qu'ran...heahahahahahha! In the same line as the 72 virgin thing, its not just women but young boys offered to the good Muslim! And you think this Catholic Church scandal is something! Pfah! Mullahs give those guys a run to the bank and back!
__________________
Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams. |
|
02-27-2006, 03:17 PM | #170 | |||||||
Quasi Evil
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maryland, US
Posts: 4,634
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
The equivalent would be programs that allow people to ADMIT they are homosexual and then use support groups and techniques to keep them from slipping and having gay sex. NOT saying you are cured! You are now a true heterosexual! Go out and marry and act happy with your wife and kids! Quote:
__________________
"People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." |
|||||||
02-27-2006, 03:18 PM | #171 |
An enigma in a conundrum
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 6,476
|
U-R-so right LSP.
__________________
Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." |
02-27-2006, 03:20 PM | #172 |
Quasi Evil
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maryland, US
Posts: 4,634
|
Wait bisexuals cant say they are bisexual here in a conversation about the point of view of bisexuals? How is that inapropriate?
__________________
"People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." |
02-27-2006, 03:23 PM | #173 |
of the House of Fëanor
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 6,150
|
Awesome post, I. Rex.
__________________
Few people have the imagination for reality.
~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
02-27-2006, 03:24 PM | #174 |
An enigma in a conundrum
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 6,476
|
never said it, a continuing case of "Shaka, when the walls fell."
---------------------------------- "Callimas at Bahar." |
02-27-2006, 03:24 PM | #175 | |
of the House of Fëanor
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 6,150
|
Quote:
__________________
Few people have the imagination for reality.
~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
|
02-27-2006, 03:35 PM | #176 | |
The Intermittent One
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: here and there
Posts: 4,671
|
Quote:
|
|
02-27-2006, 03:36 PM | #177 |
An enigma in a conundrum
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 6,476
|
LCOU & Spock at Tanagra.
TY
__________________
Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Last edited by Spock : 02-27-2006 at 03:37 PM. |
02-27-2006, 03:52 PM | #178 | |
Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!)
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Not where I want to be ...
Posts: 15,254
|
Quote:
It certainly "discolors my day and makes me feel icky" to see such terrible accusations posted (that there are Mooters on this thread that are haters), especially when the poster then declines to back it up, and that's why I'd like to deal with it. But it's your choice to decline to talk, so ... OK, then, people - I've asked several times, and Lotesse chooses to offer NO data to support her claim that there are "right-wing Christian haters" on this thread. I think if someone makes a claim like that, that they should at least back it up, but that's up to her, and she's choosing to not back it up. It reminds me of secret trials where the accused isn't even allowed to hear the evidence against them by their accuser, and can't even put up a defense. And I think that saying someone is hateful is about the worst accusation that one person can make against another, IMO, and it should NOT be allowed to stand unchallenged. I'm really disappointed to see that an accusation like that can be made on this thread, esp. without the person being willing to back it up. I think a BIG part of the good of a thread like this is that we can look at hateful, fearful attitudes that people on both sides might have, and discuss them, and understand each other better, and maybe even dispel some falsehoods. I think it would have done a lot of good to discuss it. I hope the next time a claim like that is made by ANYONE, towards ANY group of people, on ANY thread, that there will be a general call from all the posters here to stop inflammatory language that isn't even backed up, and to encourage the different sides to try to understand each other and communicate and be friends. I see and hurt tremendously for the homosexual/bisexual Mooters here when they share their painful experiences. Well, I have some painful experiences, too, in this area - it's TERRIBLY painful to me when a person accuses me (by virtue of merely being in a group - NOT because of anything I, specifically, have done) of being hateful towards homosexuals/bisexuals. (And I'm not saying you did, Lotesse, because you refused to be specific.) It's tremendously painful, because it's so wrong. How would you guys like to be accused of hating people that you didn't hate? Is my pain worth sympathy, too, or do only certain groups get sympathy? and on another topic - Spock, for what it's worth, I don't see anything wrong with what Maggie shared - I thought it was very insightful and expressed well, and I really appreciated it. This thread title is very specific, and I think people would expect posts like that, anyway. I know that I've appreciated any post that is thoughtful and considerate, especially when the poster opens up and shares some personal insights/feelings. I think a great deal of good has come from this thread.
__________________
. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 02-27-2006 at 03:54 PM. |
|
02-27-2006, 04:00 PM | #179 |
Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!)
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Not where I want to be ...
Posts: 15,254
|
Good, thoughtful post, IRex (#170). I have to log off now, but I certainly want to respond to it.
I'll just make one quick response - I agree that it's wrong and unhealthy to be in denial. Where we differ, apparently, is this: that you think it's being in denial if you don't accept an urge that you have and act on it if you can. I don't agree - I think being in denial is denying that the urge EXISTS. Not choosing to act on it, IF you see and accept that it EXISTS, is NOT denial, IMO. Let me know if that makes sense - it was a bit hard to express. (you will prob. still disagree, but that's a different matter! )
__________________
. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
02-27-2006, 04:03 PM | #180 | ||
An enigma in a conundrum
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 6,476
|
Quote:
Quote:
You too are jumping like a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs .I didn't say what you think I said and am sorry I tried to say it.
__________________
Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." |
||
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
LOTR Discussion: Appendix A, Part 1 | Valandil | LOTR Discussion Project | 26 | 12-28-2007 06:36 AM |
Do you know this.... | Grey_Wolf | General Messages | 997 | 06-28-2006 09:29 PM |
Gays, lesbians, bisexuals | Nurvingiel | General Messages | 988 | 02-06-2006 01:33 PM |