Oh no hes gone for a cheasy ending (spoilers) - Page 8

Lizra · 05-14-2003, 07:08 AM

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Originally posted by Ruinel

This spoiler is for azalea. Please do not read it Lizra, you will be offended, guaranteed. Anyone else is free to read at your own risk!:

BTW: I can't believe you edited the story about Aragorn blowing Sauron's teeth out of the back of his skull with two .45's. That was pure art!

Your name is perfect.

Ruinel · 05-14-2003, 07:26 AM

I warned you.

markedel · 05-14-2003, 07:34 AM

With sauron afraid of anduril when it's far away, why would he actually confront it himself? Not that logical.

Black Breathalizer · 05-14-2003, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Cirdan
If you believe that conventional wisdom was that the characters were too hokey, then I can only conclude that "huge Tolkien fan" could only mean you are morbidly obese.

Quit flaming me and actually consider what I said for a change. Yes, conventional wisdom was that the characters (particularly furry-footed little hobbits) were too corney, hokey, hayseed, however you want to describe it for "modern" audiences. You have a main character who calls his boss "Master" and who often holds his hand, you have characters of different sizes (think Willow), lots of talking, singing and high sounding language, and countless male characters and a couple of women. To top it all off, it's a story with real values involved, "there's good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for!" Does this sound like a sure-fire blockbuster hollywood movie to you?

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-14-2003, 10:19 AM

Heh. You sure you read the books, BB? Cause I don't think that line was in them.

Cirdan · 05-14-2003, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
Quit flaming me and actually consider what I said for a change.

Don't be "selfish and niave[sic]". I wouldn't flame anymore than you would.

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Yes, conventional wisdom was that the characters (particularly furry-footed little hobbits) were too corney, hokey, hayseed, however you want to describe it for "modern" audiences. You have a main character who calls his boss "Master" and who often holds his hand, you have characters of different sizes (think Willow), lots of talking, singing and high sounding language, and countless male characters and a couple of women. To top it all off, it's a story with real values involved, "there's good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for!" Does this sound like a sure-fire blockbuster hollywood movie to you?

Hey, I liked WIllow. "I don't love her. She kicked me in the face!" Yeah, I guess you're right. Who would ever be interested in a story about Hobbits.

By your standards I'd guess you think Spiderman and Titanic were much better movies than LotR.

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-14-2003, 10:31 AM

-snicker- Better than the book, maybe, but NEVER than the movie.

Ruinel · 05-14-2003, 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
Quit flaming me [/i]

You shouldn't be talking!

Did someone hear a baby cry?

***azalea*** · 05-14-2003, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by Ruinel

And just for the record, my butt is sore from being the only one gettin' spanked in this thread. hint, hint!!!!!!

I edited at least one other person's post, and my warning above was for everyone. I'm sorry I had to single you out, but your posts were the ones that kept crossing that fine line.

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This spoiler is for azalea. Please do not read it Lizra, you will be offended, guaranteed. Anyone else is free to read at your own risk!:

BTW: I can't believe you edited the story about Aragorn blowing Sauron's ***** out of the back of his ***** with two .45's. That was pure art!

Sigh. *Looks backwards over hunched shoulder* "Why do you trouble an already troubled mod?"

I think anyone who reads that can see why I edited it. That's R rated violence if I ever saw it.
You are obviously someone who is able to effectively argue her points without flaming, etc. Just keep doing it like that and everything will be fine.

Others here have mastered the fine art of roundabout flaming, where they post something that is ambiguous enough that I have no solid reason to edit/ reprimand.

Wayfarer · 05-14-2003, 02:58 PM

I'd just like to say that, for the record, I haven't flamed BB yet.

Oh, no. If it ever comes to that, I'm going to start recruiting people from the VNBoards and reduce him to a pure carbon cinder.

That said...

Breathalizer has consistently demonstrated a poor understanding of Tolkien and Middle Earth, and an equally poor understading of the laws of storytelling and narrative. He has defended the capricious, arrogant, and completely unjustified changes to Tolkien's work. When confronted, he has repeatedly dodged behind unjustified assertions that the changes were 'nescessary for making a film' even though they clearly are not. He has continually behaved in an insulting, arrogant manner, and repeatedly made offensive comments about the large majority of people here who disagree with him.

I remember quite clearly one of the first conversations I had with Afro Elf. It's notable to say that, although I consider him a friend, I was at that time more harsh in argument with him than I have yet been with BB. In any case, I said (in edited form):

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You are not one tenth the author tolkien was.

Any changes made to the lord of the rings...would invariably suck.

Attempting to 'improve' something as perfect as Middle Earth (is stupid)

His reply was notable:

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I never compared myself to Tolkien.
Only a fool or someone imbued with hubris would do so.

Jackson and Breathalizer have.

Ruinel · 05-14-2003, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by azalea
I edited at least one other person's post, and my warning above was for everyone. I'm sorry I had to single you out, but your posts were the ones that kept crossing that fine line.

I'm working on it... I'm working on it....

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Originally posted by azalea
That's R rated violence if I ever saw it.

Ah... well... *thinks*... maybe... I suppose you're right... but it was still art.

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Originally posted by Wayfarer
....If it ever comes to that, I'm going to start recruiting people from the VNBoards and reduce him to a pure carbon cinder.

*jumps up and down, raising hand* Oh, me... me... me!!!! *observes glare from Azalea and Lizra* uh... never mind.... *sheepishly sits down and lowers eyes obediently*

Wayfarer · 05-14-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ã‘Ã³lendil
...you have fallen in with a purist You find them in hordes on the Middle-earth Vault, where Wayfarer and I were born...Changing the Lord of the Rings or coming up with things to change is naturally quite alien to our thought.

Coney · 05-14-2003, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by Wayfarer
Oh, no. If it ever comes to that, I'm going to start recruiting people from the VNBoards and reduce him to a pure carbon cinder.

Bring 'em on the 'moot.........the place could do with a good clean-out.

***RÃan*** · 05-14-2003, 04:25 PM

*reads Sween's opening post*
No, he wouldn't do that, would he?

*remembers Arwen's MOVIE line : "you'll face the same enemy, you poor little weak man running from your heritage who needs a buff she-elf to stiffen his spine, and you'll defeat him"*
OH....MY.....GOODNESS.....
*sigh*

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Originally posted by Cirdan
If you believe that conventional wisdom was that the characters were too hokey, then I can only conclude that "huge Tolkien fan" could only mean you are morbidly obese.

Too funny, Cirdan!

Cirdan · 05-14-2003, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by RÃ*an
[BToo funny, Cirdan!

[/B]

heh heh Does anyone remember how to put out a grease fire?)

But seriously, it is perverse logic to say that PJ made the story popular, when it was Tolkien that made the movies poplular. Was anyone breathlessly awaiting PJ's next release before LotR? Are you on the edge of your seat for his remake of King Kong?

This will be the work of his life and he owes a great deal of thanks to JRRT and his loyal armies of purists for spreading the buzz and buying tickets, DVDs, etcetera. Otherwise his work would go largely unnoticed.

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-14-2003, 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by RÃ*an
*reads Sween's opening post*
No, he wouldn't do that, would he?

*remembers Arwen's MOVIE line : "you'll face the same enemy, you poor little weak man running from your heritage who needs a buff she-elf to stiffen his spine, and you'll defeat him"*
OH....MY.....GOODNESS.....
*sigh*

Hehehe.

Most amusing.

Cirdan · 05-14-2003, 05:47 PM

heheh yah. I think maybe mAragorn (movie Aragorn) is running from something besides his heritage. "No, really, Galadriel. I want her to go to Valinor."

Ruinel · 05-15-2003, 01:24 PM

Maybe mAragorn (movie Aragorn) is running from the fangirls.

LuthienTinuviel · 05-15-2003, 04:58 PM

edited by azalea: after some thought I edited out this post on the basis that it was off topic, contained flaming, and was mainly based on a misunderstanding.

Thank you Azalea

Ruinel · 05-15-2003, 05:24 PM

******

05-14-2003, 07:34 AM	#143
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	With sauron afraid of anduril when it's far away, why would he actually confront it himself? Not that logical. __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

05-14-2003, 10:19 AM	#145
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Heh. You sure you read the books, BB? Cause I don't think that line was in them. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

05-14-2003, 10:31 AM	#147
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	-snicker- Better than the book, maybe, but NEVER than the movie. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

05-14-2003, 05:47 PM	#157
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	heheh yah. I think maybe mAragorn (movie Aragorn) is running from something besides his heritage. "No, really, Galadriel. I want her to go to Valinor." __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

05-15-2003, 04:58 PM	#159
LuthienTinuviel protector of orphaned rabbits Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kalamazoo... yes, its a real place! Posts: 1,236	edited by azalea: after some thought I edited out this post on the basis that it was off topic, contained flaming, and was mainly based on a misunderstanding. Thank you Azalea __________________ Last edited by LuthienTinuviel : 05-17-2003 at 11:36 PM.

05-14-2003, 07:26 AM	#142
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	I warned you.

05-15-2003, 01:24 PM	#158
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Maybe mAragorn (movie Aragorn) is running from the fangirls.

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