Eragon - Page 8

The last sane person · 04-26-2007, 09:56 PM

Its a rip off book, but hey, keeps us busy pointing out its falws and figuring out whats next.

Noble Elf Lord · 04-27-2007, 11:32 AM

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Strange...this thread ate my post....

I think it will be green, after all that cripple dragon is gold, so the yellow color is taken. What would be awesome would be a white dragon. Ice breath or something.

In Alagaesia, all dragons breath fire, no matter their colour. Have you read the books of Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman? In them, the colour of the dragon tells what he/she breathes.

Noble Elf Lord · 04-27-2007, 11:38 AM

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Nah, Rorans on the other side of the family so his supposed relation to Eragon is irrelevent to dragonrideing -exept that Eragon is like a brother to him-

I'm thinking Ayra has something to do with the last dragon... Or perhaps thorn is redeemed...

What do you mean, Thorn is redeemed?

me9996 · 04-27-2007, 02:33 PM

I mean that possably Thorn is turned back to good.

Edit/P.S.
POST #144 IN THIS THREAD! GROSS!!!

ayra · 04-27-2007, 02:38 PM

Yes, it is a lot like Star Wars, but it is the kind of book that camoflauges(sp) all the details so you don't catch it right away. When I read it, I did not notice it was like SW until ya'll pointed it out.
If you think about it, Murtagh and Thorn have to be redeemed if the Dragon Riders are to return.

Acalewia · 04-29-2007, 07:49 PM

I'm with ayra. I would have never noticed if you guys hadn't pointed that out. It's also like LotR, dragonriders and WoT and prolly several other stories

The last sane person · 05-10-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Noble Elf Lord

In Alagaesia, all dragons breath fire, no matter their colour. Have you read the books of Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman? In them, the colour of the dragon tells what he/she breathes.

Perhaps, yes, you are right. But it would get rather boring after a time. Pity they cant alternate.

me9996 · 05-11-2007, 10:40 AM

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I'm with ayra. I would have never noticed if you guys hadn't pointed that out. It's also like LotR, dragonriders and WoT and prolly several other stories

I knew about it being like most of those things, I just wanted to point out how much it was like Starwars.

rael · 05-12-2007, 09:29 PM

I think that murtagh and thorn will be good because of how it is written I think that because galbatorix had murtaghs true name that he was being forced against his will, and if everyone remembers murtagh hates galbatorix
and I also believe that no dragon ( in that book ) could truly be evil because a dragon is influenced by his/hers rider.

ayra · 05-15-2007, 04:46 PM

That is true... Hmm, I wonder if Murtagh could resist Galbatorix? Since he was forced to give him his name, of course. I never thought of that.

Acalewia · 05-21-2007, 05:22 PM

You know that's a good point

Noble Elf Lord · 05-22-2007, 11:35 AM

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I think that murtagh and thorn will be good because of how it is written I think that because galbatorix had murtaghs true name that he was being forced against his will, and if everyone remembers murtagh hates galbatorix
and I also believe that no dragon ( in that book ) could truly be evil because a dragon is influenced by his/hers rider.

Come to think of it, I just understood (or I suppose) that Galbatorix´s dragon could kill him (this isn´t a spoiler, it´s just a guess) because their relationship is not the way it´s with others. It is but a rotten copy and shade of the true Dragonrider bond.

So that dragon (who was it ?) would not die even though Galbatorix perished.

I believe Murtagh and Thorn will survive and be a part of the rebuilt Dragonrider culture.

Acalewia · 05-22-2007, 06:30 PM

Shruikan. My thinking is when or if Galby is finally killed, he will be free, but will prolly die himself. iirc, Galby killed Shruikan's Rider to have him as his replacement dragon, binding Shrukian to him with black magic. Unless there is a way for him to survive without a Rider.

*Edited*

ayra · 05-23-2007, 11:31 AM

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Shruikan. My thinking is when or if Galby is finally killed, She will be free, but will prolly die herself. iirc, Galby killed Shruikan's Rider to have her as his replacement dragon, binding her to him with black magic. Unless there is a way for her to survive without a Rider. Correct me if I'm wrong about the gender and I'll edit that.

Actually, I thought it was a he.
Brom lived after his dragon was killed, so why can't a dragon do the same if his/her Rider was killed? So, I think it's possible for Shruikan to be good and live after Galbatorix. Right now, almost anything is possible, you know.

Acalewia · 05-23-2007, 07:04 PM

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Actually, I thought it was a he.
Brom lived after his dragon was killed, so why can't a dragon do the same if his/her Rider was killed? So, I think it's possible for Shruikan to be good and live after Galbatorix. Right now, almost anything is possible, you know.

Ok he. But I believe Brom himself said that a Rider can live on after his Dragon's death, but when a Rider dies so does his Dragon.

Noble Elf Lord · 05-24-2007, 01:30 PM

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Ok he. But I believe Brom himself said that a Rider can live on after his Dragon's death, but when a Rider dies so does his Dragon.

True. Now let us suppose that the bond between a rider and a dragon is elf/dragon magic, and thus ancient and extremely hard to break. And Galby could, hm, shall we say, make a knot of the broken bond between Shruikan and his rider to Shruikan and himself. I mean, I knew he was powerful, but...

Acalewia · 05-24-2007, 08:40 PM

But is he as powerful as an Elf?

me9996 · 05-25-2007, 09:26 AM

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But is he as powerful as an Elf?

Yes. If he wasn't the elves would have been able to stand up to him a long time ago (Possably even preventing the fall of the dragonriders) and there wouldn't be any story left for poor Eragon.

Acalewia · 05-25-2007, 04:41 PM

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Yes. If he wasn't the elves would have been able to stand up to him a long time ago (Possably even preventing the fall of the dragonriders) and there wouldn't be any story left for poor Eragon.

I really think his madness helped with the fall of the Dragonriders. I guess the Elves were powerless against Galby's madness, if you put it that way. The Forsworn aided Galby, thus 14 powerful Riders vs. The elves. But I still don't see how 14 could have caused the downfall of the Riders when the weakest elf was stronger than the strongest man?

me9996 · 05-25-2007, 06:06 PM

Dragonriders aren't included in elves being stronger than men...

But then again the dragonriders of either race weren't exactly human or elvish.

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04-27-2007, 02:38 PM	#145
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04-29-2007, 07:49 PM	#146
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	I'm with ayra. I would have never noticed if you guys hadn't pointed that out. It's also like LotR, dragonriders and WoT and prolly several other stories __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

05-12-2007, 09:29 PM	#149
rael Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: hutchinson ks Posts: 34	I think that murtagh and thorn will be good because of how it is written I think that because galbatorix had murtaghs true name that he was being forced against his will, and if everyone remembers murtagh hates galbatorix and I also believe that no dragon ( in that book ) could truly be evil because a dragon is influenced by his/hers rider. __________________ Blessed be the giver Cursed be the thief May fortune smile apon the true And liars come to grief Last edited by rael : 05-12-2007 at 09:32 PM.

05-15-2007, 04:46 PM	#150
ayra Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kalia. YOU HUMANS CAN'T GO THERE! Also land of boredom Posts: 230	That is true... Hmm, I wonder if Murtagh could resist Galbatorix? Since he was forced to give him his name, of course. I never thought of that. __________________ I am Queen Tallie Falcon. Do not mess with me. US KALIANS WILL RULE THOSE FROM THE REPUBLIC! Kalia rocks!

05-21-2007, 05:22 PM	#151
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	You know that's a good point __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

05-22-2007, 06:30 PM	#153
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	Shruikan. My thinking is when or if Galby is finally killed, he will be free, but will prolly die himself. iirc, Galby killed Shruikan's Rider to have him as his replacement dragon, binding Shrukian to him with black magic. Unless there is a way for him to survive without a Rider. Edited __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera Last edited by Acalewia : 05-23-2007 at 07:10 PM. Reason: Dragon Gender

05-24-2007, 08:40 PM	#157
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	But is he as powerful as an Elf? __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

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