Time Zones and Places! - Page 8

Last Child of Ungoliant · 04-06-2005, 06:53 AM

i loved this thread

why d'we let it die

just thought i would bump to say not last saturday, but saturday before, GMT changed to BST so our clocks changed to meke me lose an hour in bed

**Nurvingiel** · 04-06-2005, 07:02 AM

Yes, and at the moment I'm GMT+1 (Sweden) which is now GMT+2 because of DST. Maybe we should ignore DST for the purpose of this list...

Nice bump Chrys.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 04-06-2005, 07:05 AM

i spent ages searching for this thread

i loved it that much

Last Child of Ungoliant · 04-06-2005, 07:13 AM

remember the conversation regarding roundabouts?, here is a picture of some

strider8 · 04-06-2005, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

can i ask the americans (and anyone else who does it)
why do you put your dates as month/day/year
ie today, we say 17/03/04
and yet u say 03/17/04
the correct way (ie UK day/month/year) is much more logical

i am english like Last Child of Ungoliant and i agree with him

**Nurvingiel** · 04-06-2005, 09:12 AM

Sometimes they go month/day/year in Sweden. Usually it's year/month/day, or just month/day. I don't know what the rest of Canada does, but I like day/month/year the best. Year/month/day is also perfectly logical.

Pytt · 04-06-2005, 09:21 AM

In Norway we always use the /dd/mm/year/ thing. I prefer that, over hte other one.

***Jonathan*** · 04-06-2005, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

Sometimes they go month/day/year in Sweden...

If you've seen the date written that way, it was likely an anglicism. The correct way to go is day/month/year, or year/month/day.

***Rían*** · 04-06-2005, 05:31 PM

I like the day/month/year thing. I wonder why the Americans do it the month/day/year way? Some tradition, I guess...

Mercutio · 04-06-2005, 08:49 PM

Possibly because we also say April 6, 2005 rather than 6 April, 2005.

"April the sixth, two-thousand and five."
v.
"The sixth of April, two-thousand and five."

Last Child of Ungoliant · 04-06-2005, 08:54 PM

i would personally find it strange to say April 6th, just one of those cultural things

It is three and fifty minutes past the hour of one o'clock in the morning, on Thursday, being the sixth day of April, in the year of five and two thousand. (That is of course the correct way to say the date/time

)

Mercutio · 04-06-2005, 08:56 PM

I'm in Delaware.

Edit: didn't realize LCoU had responded. This is for Rian to note.

jerseydevil · 04-07-2005, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

remember the conversation regarding roundabouts?, here is a picture of some

Hey - those are circles.

And I prefer mm/dd/yy

**Nurvingiel** · 04-07-2005, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerseydevil

Hey - those are circles.

And I prefer mm/dd/yy

Hehe. Yes, those roundabouts are, in fact, circular.

Why do you like month/day/year? It doesn't have a logical order that I can discern...

***Rían*** · 04-07-2005, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercutio

Possibly because we also say April 6, 2005 rather than 6 April, 2005.

Well, yes, of course

What I meant was why did we start that order in the first place?

jerseydevil · 04-07-2005, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

Hehe. Yes, those roundabouts are, in fact, circular.

Well we call them circles. We have many in NJ - although they are dismantling most of them because they aren't evicient anymore. I think in the beginning of this thread there is a discussion on them and I give some information on them. I also had a picture of what a jughandle is - which is something NJ has a lot of.

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Why do you like month/day/year? It doesn't have a logical order that I can discern...

Well year is mostly understood when speaking. And month gives the general time frame you are talking about. MY birthday is January 30th - which is shorter and less cumbersome to say than 30th of January. So when we write it out in short hand it is - 1/30/05 I just went over all this with rad and explained to him a third time format which is yyyy-mm-dd which is how computers need to store dates.

You can look at the MySQL manual on Date, Time and DateTime formats

Butterbeer · 04-07-2005, 05:23 PM

ok for computers, sure
but its got to be dd/mm/yyyy for me pal
today being 07/0405 22:23 (10.33pm!)
guess its just what your'e used to and cosy with
personally could easily say jan 30th or 30th Jan either way

the days are getting longer here now: what time does it get dark where you are? And its kinda stormy here in the modern Urban Shire: lets have a weathercam update from around the moot-globe! over to you ...

**Nurvingiel** · 04-07-2005, 05:27 PM

Oh yeah, traffic circles. That's what they're called in Canada, I think. We have a few in Vancouver.

Okay, I see why we have month/day/year, but speaking and writing don't always coincide. Would you ever say, "Then my Mom told me comma open single quotations marks don't put your hand in the blender exclamation point"?

Last Child of Ungoliant · 04-07-2005, 05:29 PM

twilight in somerset starts at 6 pm at mo, darkness by 9 pm

jerseydevil · 04-07-2005, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Okay, I see why we have month/day/year, but speaking and writing don't always coincide. Would you ever say, "Then my Mom told me comma open single quotations marks don't put your hand in the blender exclamation point"?

You are talking about puncuation marks there. So no - just like you don't say january 30th comma 2005. There is a difference - since punctuation marks are understood through inflection and pauses in speech. Punctuations marks are just there to show that on paper.

Concerning quotes though - that is often spoken - such as when you are doing this... He quote wrote his own paper. Whereas written it would be... He "wrote his own paper" and is used to indicate that you don't really believe it and you are being rather sarcastic.

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Mercutio Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Narnia Posts: 1,656	I'm in Delaware. Edit: didn't realize LCoU had responded. This is for Rian to note. __________________ Mike nodded. A sombre nod. The nod Napoleon might have given if somebody had met him in 1812 and said, "So, you're back from Moscow, eh?". Interested in C.S. Lewis? Visit the forum dedicated to one of Tolkien's greatest contemporaries. Last edited by Mercutio : 04-06-2005 at 08:57 PM.

04-06-2005, 06:53 AM	#141
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	i loved this thread why d'we let it die just thought i would bump to say not last saturday, but saturday before, GMT changed to BST so our clocks changed to meke me lose an hour in bed

04-06-2005, 07:05 AM	#143
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	i spent ages searching for this thread i loved it that much

04-06-2005, 07:13 AM	#144
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	remember the conversation regarding roundabouts?, here is a picture of some

04-06-2005, 08:54 PM	#151
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	i would personally find it strange to say April 6th, just one of those cultural things It is three and fifty minutes past the hour of one o'clock in the morning, on Thursday, being the sixth day of April, in the year of five and two thousand. (That is of course the correct way to say the date/time )

04-07-2005, 05:23 PM	#157
Butterbeer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: here and there Posts: 3,514	ok for computers, sure but its got to be dd/mm/yyyy for me pal today being 07/0405 22:23 (10.33pm!) guess its just what your'e used to and cosy with personally could easily say jan 30th or 30th Jan either way the days are getting longer here now: what time does it get dark where you are? And its kinda stormy here in the modern Urban Shire: lets have a weathercam update from around the moot-globe! over to you ...

04-07-2005, 05:29 PM	#159
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	twilight in somerset starts at 6 pm at mo, darkness by 9 pm