02-09-2002, 12:33 AM | #141 | ||
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I am in no way insulting your theories, as they are completely viable, but ONLY under the pretense that we do not have any control over our thoughts. Do you not agree?
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"We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm. |
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02-09-2002, 01:22 AM | #142 |
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So, is the soul the presence that makes us think: "wow! I never thought that about me!" (self awareness)
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02-09-2002, 03:49 AM | #143 |
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what is OrganX?
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02-09-2002, 10:20 AM | #144 | ||
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CardenIAntauraNauco,
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BTW, I was assuming that thoughts and consciousness are not the same thing. Perhaps this where we should start.
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02-09-2002, 12:56 PM | #145 | ||
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or 1.6 x 10 to the 29th. And that's JUST the alphabet lets look at words you would also have to have the potential to combine any of those we'll say theres only 100 words in the english language for the sake of convienence there are 100 to the 100th power things you mind can asscoaiate those 100th to 100th power of words to. That's a one followed by 200 0's. or 1 X 10 to the 200th. Can you see how it would be impossible for your mother to give you "software" to decode material into every seperate thought you could ever have? The numbers would be HUGE. You must either... have a set program like your heart does your cells do and have no control over them OR you must be able to create your own thoughts. Do you see that?
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"We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm. |
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On how I believe thoughts are fed into the mind, the senses and bodily movements are converted into inputs into the mind. I would think that there are a great number of degrees by which information is remembered. The more desirable and repeated the info comes in, the more it is enforced as memory by stronger electrical impulses that fire and get stored as a chemical pattern in the brain.
If info is deemed trivial, less important to remember, impulses are weaker. If no further similar impulse are fired, the pattern decays and we gradually forget about it. Memory, I believe, is supported physically by matter and energy but is really implemented as patterns stored in the matter/energy interation. Quote:
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02-10-2002, 12:08 AM | #147 | |
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Read the part about how many thoughts we would have to have we would have to have information that tells our Organx how to process material into every different thought. Our minds could not hold that much software. The numbers Iv'e mentioned would be a extremely small facet of consciousness. [/quote]And then material telling how that material needs to form the material that needs to form the material that tells how to organize material into a thought and so on... [quote] I'm sorry I didn't make myself clearer " and so on" indicates an ever backward moving infinite amount of things. Infinite you well know is incomputable number of stemps for a computer to take. That's my point it would extend along that line of reasoning for all infinity. I realize this is confusing for us both. (upon realization of the deragatory impression of his post I decided to brighten it up with a bunch of seemingly pointless Smilies EDIT>>>>It was supposed to be THIS post not HIS post
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"We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm. Last edited by CardenIAntauraNauco : 02-10-2002 at 01:50 AM. |
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I think we're both struggling with each other's choice of symantics. Don't worry, I don't think you were being derrogatory and I hope I don't sound like I am either. These puzzles are fun.
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02-10-2002, 03:03 AM | #149 |
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Good..Glad to know we've got good sportsmanship. I'm tired it's 12:56 here and I need to go to bed. Yes I was just talking about signals like a MRNA or something of the like.
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"We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm. |
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Umm... can we get back on the topic here? (What was the topic again?)
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03-13-2002, 12:17 AM | #151 |
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Hey, this old thread . . . I almost forgot about it.
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( scratches chin...) "hmmm", ( thinks about post reply-thinks better of it-backs away saying, "nice message board, nice message board".)
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Emplynex, I really agree with you. That was great! Drugs are stupid. I had to do a report on cirhossis of the liver, it's just DISGUSTING! You're liver gets swollen and begins to look like someones butt. Reading is great! It helps you do better in tests and gives you more options instead of eliminating options. That was great stuff.
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This is a great thread. Although I've never taken drugs, I am definitely addicted to books. They allow you to escape into a fantasy world but there are no nasty after-effects. Books have helped me through some difficult times in my life.
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back to the original question........
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Books are also reusable and the trip can last a lifetime.
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Yes, but people can die from books as well.
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Or the Bible, or the Koran...
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