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![]() I agree with Wulažg. I just like Arwen. No offence but Eowyn is terribly...ahh ...ahh ... I don't know she's just... I don't like Eowyn!!!
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self centered? (with good reasons of course!)
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Wulazg, stop generalizing and stereotyping. Please.
Okay, it's nice to hear other people's opinions. I still like Eowyn better, but reading about your opinions is nice too. I don't think we're about to change anyone's opinions here ![]()
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Hey Eruviel... What is the difference(in your mind) between stereotyping and generalization and simply seeing the patterns? People that act alike look alike. It's like people looking like their pets/spouses. People give up things to match more perfectly the personalities of said entities and therefore tend to obtain the same general "feel"/"look" to them. Quantify that and you have a system for reading wha a peson is like by their appearance/unconcious actions. Any character/character type written about by an author to a sufficient degree will afford the same opportunity to assess the character's personality. For instance, if you know what you are doing, you can figure out Hemingway's "Code Hero" or even more interesting the "nice/kind/friendly/beautiful-hearted"(sorry technical term ast least it wasn't in Quenya as usual) if F. Scott Fitzgerald's works. In the same sense one can analyze Arwen and her template, Luthien Tinuviel, and HER template, Tolkien's wife. Thus one can actually get a pretty good idea as to "who" Arwen really is. I'm a VERY logical person and I did not make a blind generalization or stereotype. I'm apparently also quite vociferous on the subject
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Trust me this is mild compared to what my English teacher went through when he asked something stupid. I replied with a 10 page dissertation comparing personality sets between Tolkien and Fitzgerald. He has now banned me from writing essays on LotR. This is NOTHING compared to that. I like/prefer nice people and so will always choose them. This isn't the specifics yet but it should be sufficient to explain my statement earlier.
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Whoa! Sorry, I went into rabid-feminist mode there for a minute!
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It's cool that you are always ready to defend whatever you say--I admire people who can do that! Thanks for the explanation...And I think most people generally like nice people over not-nice people. Eek! I made a generalization!
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Define over-nice. It seems to be impossible unless you are refferring to insincere nice people. I just don't get it.
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Did I say 'over-nice' ? *checks posts* I don't think I did. . .
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oops... I must have skipped the "not" in "over not-nice". Sorry
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That's alright, my orcish friend!
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Arwen.have u Seen the horse chase sene? anyway, shes less whimsy than Eowyn.
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Christiana, have you read the books? No offense or anything, but really, Eowyn is far from whimsy (maybe a bit self-centered and so on. . .) while Arwen simply sits at home and makes flags. Not that there's anything wrong with making banners and staying at home, but Eowyn at least goes out and does something, which is far from whimsy. And the horse chase scene is purely a PJ invention, having nothing to do with the character JRR Tolkien wrote.
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Shut up.
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Sorry, didn't mean to make you sad. . .there, there. I just meant, I thought you might not have read them, so your impressions would be different...it would be PJ's interpretations of the characters, not your own. Didn't want to hurt your feelings. . .
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Well, this is the books forum! If you want to expound upon the virtues of Movie Arwen, do it in the movie forum.
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Eowyn's a tomboy, which is generally a quality I prefer. Not to mention, she kicks butt on the Witchking (Merry helped
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Are you insulting me, Mirahzi?
![]() ![]() Yeah, Eowyn's a tomboy, which is probably one of the reasons I like her better over Arwen... ![]() ![]()
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You can bet your socks I'm insulting you
![]() ![]() Dithpicable. I suppose Arwen and Aragorn are suited for each other, since opposites attract.
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How dare you insult me? I am one of the manliest elves in ME!!!
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