01-19-2011, 12:13 AM | #141 |
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Mari, you mean like verifying that the calendar in question actually does leave off the Christian holidays? while including the others?
Or do you mean that they verified the person commenting actually said the comments attributed to her by quotation marks? Or, could you be straining at gnats and swallowing camels?
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01-21-2011, 11:06 AM | #142 |
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I meant the first, didn't mean the second and have no idea what you mean by the third
But yeah, in the article there is a sentence about this lady which suggests to me that the entire article is based on what she said. Now, I'm not sure if the protest is also based on what she said, but in any case it seems odd to base anything on something one person said, especially since it just seems illogical for the EU to 'forget' or worse leave Christian holidays off on purpose.
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01-21-2011, 10:08 PM | #143 |
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Ummm, Mari,
"A new 2011-2012 school calendar for children published by a branch of the European Union has omitted references to Christian holidays but has kept its references to prominent Jewish, Hindu, and even Muslims holidays, according to a Catholic news outlet." Fact. French politician makes statement. Remark on the politician, ignore the fact = strain at gnat, swallow camel. Does that help?
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01-22-2011, 07:49 AM | #144 |
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People sure get worked up over a printing error...
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01-22-2011, 10:01 AM | #145 |
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And the proof that it was a printing ERROR is located where?
Pretty big error for the home of the GREGORIAN calendar - !
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Also hard for me to swallow that it's a complete oversight.
On the other hand, I think it's probably a decision by a low-level official, rather than EU policy. Still though - a cautionary note for those in Europe who wish to hold onto Christianity. Whether as an actual faith or just a heritage of traditions.
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Where's the proof that it's a deliberate ommission? Saying this is a premeditated attack on Christianity is in the same League of Silly as accusing Israel of deliberatedly training sharks to go attack tourists off the coast in Egypt. Let's stay reasonable. It's not like christians are a poor widdle suppressed group in the EU either.
But if anyone wants to feel prosecuted over a misprinted agenda, be my guest. Personally I think there are better matters to feel suppressed by, but hey.
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01-22-2011, 08:01 PM | #149 |
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No one's prosecuted yet, E.
Pretty big "misprint". Perhaps the Wiccans can sue for being left off, too? The EU is the EU (eewww!).
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What is this, kindergarden?
And I don't know about the Wiccans, but the witches aren't exactly afraid of hexing the government if they disagree about taxes...
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01-23-2011, 08:35 PM | #152 |
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"But now they have been classified as self-employed, as part of the cash-strapped government's push to collect more revenue and crack down on tax evasion."
Hey, do they list prostitution as a taxable employment? Sixteen per cent per client X number of sex workers (male/female/AC/DC) ought to bring in a chunk of change. Why limit taxes to witches, valets, and taxi drivers? Let's see some intense prosecution of taxation. After all, this ISN'T kindergarden. It's Romania. EU!
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You know what other holiday they didn't mention? Mayday!
The Christmas and Easter thing is obviously just a cover for evil right-wing EU elements to deny European schoolchildren knowledge of their heritage of the struggle for workers' rights- it's probably directed by conservative groups in the US and Canada, two of the few places on the planet that don't acknowledge International Labour Day. Meanwhile, back on Planet Sanity, some EU bureaucrat, feeling all multi-kulti, said to the calendar designer, "you know, since Christmas and Easter are holidays everywhere in the EU [the only religion whose holy days are public holidays, and like Labour Day and New Year's Day presumably marked as such in red on a school calendar] why don't we include some holy days of some of the millions of children in the EU who aren't Christian?" The designer then dutifully looked up religious days for Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists etc. and put them in without even thinking of Christmas and Easter, which are already marked as holidays. from Wiki: Quote:
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LOL. Well done GM.
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01-24-2011, 07:06 AM | #155 |
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I always take shock-horror stories about the EU with a pinch of salt. So many of them turn out to have originated from some tabloid hack who has seized on half a story and spun it according to editorial policy, quoted it out of context or just plain made things up.
As to the EU itself, I have mixed views. It seems a pretty poor way to govern half a continent. Until you look at the alternatives.
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01-24-2011, 10:31 AM | #156 |
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Excellent job, GM. Wonder why the EU couldn't have done it?
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Another bang-up political correctness scorer! Baroness Ashton
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...Christian.html "Baroness Ashton is under fire after the EU failed to agree on a statement condemning attacks on religious minorities in the Islamic world because it is not politically correct to use the word "Christian". " ... No Christian holidays on the calendar.... Don't defend Christians by name.... No pattern here, none! Move along! I re-iterate, EU!!!
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02-03-2011, 05:40 PM | #158 |
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Why are you so obsessed with Islam?
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02-04-2011, 08:50 AM | #159 |
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Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Russia, Africa, ... .
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(serious incomprehension)
Wut?
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