03-25-2002, 08:08 PM | #141 |
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Yes, and how many times has it been re-written?
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03-25-2002, 08:11 PM | #142 |
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When the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, only one word in Isaiah 53 (which didn't change the meaning whatsoever) was different from the current chapter. The earliest New Testament manuscript was written only 100 years after the original. (That makes it incredibally reliable.)((At least that's what it said in some book.))
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03-25-2002, 08:16 PM | #143 |
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these are the links
http://www.tolkientrail.com/entmoot...20&pagenumber=1 http://www.tolkientrail.com/entmoot...=&threadid=1780
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are you aware that after over 50 years that only 30% has been published publicly Humm wonder what the hold up is
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03-25-2002, 08:19 PM | #146 |
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The links don't work. Does that mean I don't have to read them?
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Khadrane? It has be proven with fact that the world is at least 4 and a half billion years old. Your teacher is wrong, and is obviously driving you to believe something false. When a person proves something and you say it's a lie - there's something wrong there.
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Translations from ancient hebrew, to latin, to english, and you're saying that NOTHING has been lost in translation? Not to mention the king james bible...
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I'm unsubbing now. Enjoyed the thread but it is one that will never end to anyone's satifaction. Back to Tolkien related issues; The one area we can all agree one.
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03-25-2002, 08:32 PM | #151 |
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try it now
http://www.tolkientrail.com/entmoot/...&threadid=2186 http://www.tolkientrail.com/entmoot/...&threadid=1780
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03-25-2002, 08:35 PM | #152 |
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"To insist on a spiritual practice that served you in the past is to carry the raft on your back after you have crossed the river."
Buddha said that "Religion is for people afraid of going to Hell, not those who have already been there." One of my good friends said that. |
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However, I notice that no matter how different these people may all be, they all agree with each other far more than they do with you. This is not a valid arguement, and so I'll leave it there, but i find it interesting. Now, Christians, on the other hand, agree with all these in part. The christian idea is that all humans naturally have pieces of the truth, but the absolute truth is revealed in Jesus Christ. Complete different matter, I know. Think of it this way: The christian believes that the Bible is completely true, but that all other religions have fragments of truth in them as well. Quote:
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Once more I wonder at these leaps of, well, faith, that you keep making. I believe there is a God who created the universe, and that he made it to work in a certain way, and that through science we can find out how that is and predict how it will work in the future. In order to have face in science, you must have faith in a predictable universe.
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In the evolution theory, there are many possibilties where life came from. The one I think is most possible, is that of a comet with living one-celled organisms that crashed into the surface (from where it came, is obviously unknown because no living person was there when it happened). Ultimately, however, no one can say where everything came from because they weren't there when it happened. Personally, I don't really want to know Saying God created everything, though, is just an easy way out. Here's a small, condensed conversation between my father and I when I was nine (what I say is in " "): "Where'd the universe come from?" God created it. "Where'd the earth come from?" God created it. "Where'd people come from?" God created them. "Where'd God come from?" He was always there. "Why was he always there?" Because he just was. "How old is he?" Older than time. "How old is time?" Pretty old. I'm serious. This is basically what was said |
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