Riddling IV

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Yikes... There is not a lot to work with in this riddle....

Gandalf and Bilbo know it and it potentially costs something (at least until it becomes toll-less). It is probably in the Shire if Bilbo knows it and would predate the war of the ring (eliminating the redecorating done by Saruman)

A complete and total guess...

The Free Fair held during Lithe on the White Downs. Hobbits were "free" to set up "booths" to buy and sell things during the fair.

The Free Fair it is! It was called the "free fair" because the merchants could set up their booths without charge. It is a rather obscure riddle, but you guys still figured it out.

Well done, Wil!

[Keith K]

Who Am I?
Devoted to the Valar
fourth of four
Third in line
in the days of yore.

[Valandil]

Originally Posted by Keith K

Who Am I?
Devoted to the Valar
fourth of four
Third in line
in the days of yore.

Oh - now that's hardly fair!

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Valandil

Oh - now that's hardly fair!

Ha! Of course you know that was aimed at you, my dear Val.

It's not meant to be fair, but go ahead and let another riddler figure it out if you wish.

[Wilhelm]

Lying in wait
Bringer of fate

Before I move little shows
Where I come from know one knows

I killed the little ones friend
My fate remains unknowm come the end

Who am I??

I'd like to see an explanation with the answer.

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Lying in wait
Bringer of fate

Before I move little shows
Where I come from know one knows

I killed the little ones friend
My fate remains unknowm come the end

Who am I??

I'd like to see an explanation with the answer.

Ungoliant? She waited for the right moment to deliver the fate of the Two Trees. She isn't seen until she moves, when she is like a shadow. Not sure who she killed, but it is stated that her fate is unknown even though it is suggested that she devoured herself in her last hunger.

[Wilhelm]

Ungoliant is not what I had in mind. Please keep trying.

[CAB]

Originally Posted by Keith K

Who Am I?
Devoted to the Valar
fourth of four
Third in line
in the days of yore.

Valandil = Devoted to the Valar
He was the fourth and last son of Isildur
He was the third King of Arnor
and....umm...He lived a long time ago

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Lying in wait
Bringer of fate

Before I move little shows
Where I come from know one knows

I killed the little ones friend
My fate remains unknowm come the end

Who am I??

I'd like to see an explanation with the answer.

The Watcher in the Water lies in wait
“Bringer of fate” could mean many things – I'm not sure how to reply to that line
It can't be seen before it moves
Even Gandalf has no knowledge of its origins
It killed the Dwarf Oin, who was one of Bilbo's friends from his first adventure
There is no news of it after it slams Moria's doors and uproots the great trees

[Keith K]

Here's another one.

Hero's sire.
Gourmet's desire.
His fate was rumored to be dire.
And even though he liked to sail,
drowned he was in heady ale.

[Keith K]

Devoted to the Valar
fourth of four
Third in line
in the days of yore.

Originally Posted by Thurin

Valandil = Devoted to the Valar
He was the fourth and last son of Isildur
He was the third King of Arnor
and....umm...He lived a long time ago

Yes! Valandil is the correct answer. Well done!

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Thurin

The Watcher in the Water lies in wait
“Bringer of fate” could mean many things – I'm not sure how to reply to that line
It can't be seen before it moves
Even Gandalf has no knowledge of its origins
It killed the Dwarf Oin, who was one of Bilbo's friends from his first adventure
There is no news of it after it slams Moria's doors and uproots the great trees

Well, if it's not the Watcher then this riddle has more than one solution. Well done, Thurin! Great riddle, Wil!

[Wilhelm]

The Watcher in the Water lies in wait
“Bringer of fate” could mean many things – I'm not sure how to reply to that line
It can't be seen before it moves
Even Gandalf has no knowledge of its origins
It killed the Dwarf Oin, who was one of Bilbo's friends from his first adventure
There is no news of it after it slams Moria's doors and uproots the great trees

Bingo! The Watcher it is.

I really like your interpretation of "bringer of fate". It can mean many so many things as to be almost not a clue... but it rhymed nicely! My original rendition had it as "guardian of the gate" but, I felt that made it way too easy a riddle.

[Wilhelm]

Originally Posted by Keith K

Here's another one.

Hero's sire.
Gourmet's desire.
His fate was rumored to be dire.
And even though he liked to sail,
drowned he was in heady ale.

Awesome Riddle!!!!!!!

Drogo Baggins is the answer.

Heady Ale is A Hobbit pun for the Brandywine River (and the key to solving this very clever riddle)
Who drowned in the Brandywine? Frodo's Parents!
You refer to this person as "his" and "he" - Therefore Frodo's Dad: Drogo Baggins
Drogo liked to eat (gourmet's desire) and died in a boating accident (sail) which by all accounts is a dire fate.

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Awesome Riddle!!!!!!!

Drogo Baggins is the answer.

Heady Ale is A Hobbit pun for the Brandywine River (and the key to solving this very clever riddle)
Who drowned in the Brandywine? Frodo's Parents!
You refer to this person as "his" and "he" - Therefore Frodo's Dad: Drogo Baggins
Drogo liked to eat (gourmet's desire) and died in a boating accident (sail) which by all accounts is a dire fate.

I'm glad you liked it, Wil. Of course you are quite correct. Drogo Baggins fits the clues, and solves the riddle. Well done!

[Keith K]

Not one of my best efforts, but I wanted to use the subject somehow...then I got tired trying to make it interesting - so you guys can just have it as it is...

My first move was to remove, This affected the fates of many.
For my next feat I kept the mouths of the south at bay.
Finally I gave refuge, before I was swept far away.

Good luck, riddlers!

[EllethValatari]

Great light opposite west,
Round moving without rest.

Who/what am I?

[Wilhelm]

Originally Posted by EllethValatari

Great light opposite west,
Round moving without rest.

Who/what am I?

Sounds like the sun rising in the east - but that's not a "middle earth" answer.

Could it be Earendil heading to the undying lands with the silmaril to beg for the Valar's help against Morgoth.
Since he sailed west, the light would be coming from the east (from the perspective of the undying lands).

My other guess would still be Earendil but sailing the skies aboard vingilot after the war of wrath.

[Wilhelm]

Originally Posted by Keith K

My first move was to remove, This affected the fates of many.
For my next feat I kept the mouths of the south at bay.
Finally I gave refuge, before I was swept far away.

This sounds like it has something to do with water - mouths could refer to river mouths. Swept away could be a water thing as well.

I'll need a clue before I could even hazard a guess.

[EllethValatari]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Sounds like the sun rising in the east - but that's not a "middle earth" answer.

Could it be Earendil heading to the undying lands with the silmaril to beg for the Valar's help against Morgoth.
Since he sailed west, the light would be coming from the east (from the perspective of the undying lands).

My other guess would still be Earendil but sailing the skies aboard vingilot after the war of wrath.

No to both. But I'll give you a hint:

It's a play on what Tolkien usually uses light to signify.

And yes, this is a "middle earth" riddle

[CAB]

Originally Posted by EllethValatari

Great light opposite west,
Round moving without rest.

Who/what am I?

I am going to guess Gandalf. He was known to be constantly moving and could have been described by Tolkien as a "Great light".