01-18-2007, 03:48 PM | #141 |
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Well I have a problem with you Gwai, and it's this: You Haven't cleaned your PM box!
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It is, in fact, shorter, at least when spoken.
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01-18-2007, 03:53 PM | #146 |
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Not to excuse anything, but even "Nigger", at least it seems to be the case, was not always used in a demeaning way. Chesterton, old cow that he is now, used it, and you certainly can't pin him up as a racist.
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2. They have ample evidence of homosexual relationships if that’s such an issue for you. The concept that a marriage license will suddenly make a homosexual relationship something vastly and dangerously different is a joke. So your evidence is there. Thousands of years of it. Go out and get it if you like but stop restricting others from having what you can have and then covering your eyes and saying theres no data. Quote:
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If being Christian was proven to be “harmful” (perhaps in a persecution/throw them to the lions kind of way) in our society would you then logically maintain the same argument that we shouldn’t allow anyone to be Christian because it was harmful? Or would you fight for the opposite despite the fact that it was harmful? Clearly your moral leanings would not allow you to follow your logic in that kind of scenario. So why put up this mock indignation when we speak of morality on this issue exactly? Quote:
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The truth of the matter is that the right to vote was given to females because, no matter how we tried to justify it, banning women from voting just didn’t fly constitutionally. So whether its harmful or not OUR government allowed it because constitutionally it was the fair and right thing to do… Just as they should with gay marriage. Quote:
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Now its nice that you acknowledge BLACKS are now in congress (they were in the 1800’s by the way but that didn’t stop whites from creating laws BANNING them from being elected officials because they argued they werent competent enough to be…) and that that’s evidence enough that they are competent enough to hold these positions. So why aren’t CURRENT homosexual relationships evidence enough to show that THEY can work too? I don’t understand why you continue to ignore that when you allow it in every other instance.
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01-18-2007, 04:59 PM | #149 |
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blimey, not another 5,000 word post-
whatever happened to the art of brevity? anyway - which part of the eternal circle is the debate currently at then? - and has anyone here actually changed their position any? please answer in less then 50- words - i dare you! |
01-18-2007, 05:03 PM | #150 | |
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Here's my 50 word answer, Butterbeer: No.
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*goes back to unpacking*
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01-18-2007, 05:25 PM | #152 |
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When the heck did I use it first! Please show me EXACTLY where I "used that first" before you make such accusations in support of Lief.
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01-18-2007, 05:42 PM | #153 | |
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Lief's usage of "Negro" to describe black people is really wrong, and if he's unaware of the reasons why his use of Negro in this way, with the attitude he has, is so wrong, then how will he ever know to change? How will anyone in this world know to change if those of us who see a wrong being done, do not rise up and say something about it, or do something to help that wrong stop?
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The difference is enormous. i. Rex was being sarcastic, Lief, however, means it. Lief shows himself to be genuine in his thinking that there is nothing wrong with referring to black people as "Negroes." I. Rex is genuine in showing how utterly ridiculously wrong it is to refer to black people as "Negroes," by using the word in a sarcastic way in a post directed to Lief in a conversation.Doesn't take a genius, Rian, doesn't take a genius...
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Lotesse, if you really want to keep this going, would you please respond to post 135?
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Which was in response to YOUR statement on post 123 of: "Race is a minimal genetic difference- there is no big difference between a Negro and a Caucasian. It's mainly just skin color. That's tiny. Who cares?"
So not so fast... And by the way I didnt necessarily have a problem with this initial use given its context. I just thought it was amusing so I responded in kind. Strange how I end up getting all the blame...
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I don't think "Negro" has ever been a racist word. As I pointed out before, Lyndon B. Johnson used it all the time while arguing for the Civil Rights Act. It used to be used all the time in America, even by blacks, and there was never any racist connotation. For the last time, I only used it because "African American" is too longwinded, and in my opinion, it actually suggests difference between blacks and whites more than just saying "black," "white," or "Negro." I'll just use "black" now though, since I only used "Negro" because it was a shorter word, and "black" is just as short, and saying "Negro" plainly causes a ruccus.
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