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On another point: Our main goals now in Afghanistan and Iraq should be the following --accessable healthcare, universal education and women's rights. The economic stuff (and all those contracts) just aren't as crucial to the ultimate goal of eradicating terrorism. A major flaw in the US's thinking is that "if they only had the same wealth and prosperity as us, they wouldn't hate us." It's not about that, for the most part. They have a different way of thinking, and a different view of how the world should be. I have seen people who have been over there and written books or appeared on news shows on tv who emphasize this. There was one British guy who had been in Afghanistan before 9-11 doing a documentary of terrorist cells, and he was very emphatic that "they don't want our microwaves and our cable tv." It's important that the leaders realize this as they set their priorities in the rebuilding. I think it's a huge conflict of interest that people here are getting lucrative contracts to do jobs over there. What, don't they have any native citizens who could do the work? It's bad enough that outsiders were the impetus of their "revolutions," (which I've said makes it less precious to the average citizen there), but now the rebuilding has to be done by us? They really need to make this THEIR project -- it will mean so much more to them. That's why Habitat for Humanity makes the new owner help build their own house. Please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the US shouldn't have deposed the Taliban (though I might not have done it that way), and I'm not saying they should have deposed Saddam and left immediately, but it's been a year, and we don't seem much closer to bringing our troops home. |
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I guess England deserved those IRA bombings then. At least, according to this thread's author. |
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Basically according to this thread - if the British left Northern Ireland - everything would be fine. So why doesn't Britain just give Northern Ireland back to Ireland and withdraw all their troops? I know perfectly well about the argument that they are there to protect the innocent protestants from the catholics - then why don't the protestants also leave to England. I really don't see much difference in what is going on in Israel and what is going on in Northern Ireland - both are a religious war against people who think that the land is theirs.
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My goodness, Ruinel. Gee you picked me. Oh yeah, lets kill all the little kiddies on their way to school. And lets kill all the business people working in New York one september day. Oh, and lets kill anyone whom disagree's with America's views. (Sarcasm, before you whinge, and foolishly take what I have just said litterally.)
I argue that the reason that 9/11 happened is because us troops are in Saudi Arabia. Of course it was not a justified response to kill innocent americans. I have never said it was. (Perhaps you should re read some of my posts!) And take a chill pill, and argue the points. We can't have you spanked for flaming again now, can we?
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no, but perhaps if they (i.e., you) want to stop having planes faling from the skies into urban areas, perhaps you should ask yourself why they are in the first place?
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well, I know that if my country was the site of THE BIGGEST TERRORIST ATTACK IN HISTORY, I would take a moment to consider why...
If you did nothing to them, then why are they doing something to you? Sounds logical, dont it?
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However, that wouldn't have the effect of delivering control of arab oil to Western companies, so it's pretty far down the Bush "to do" list. BTW, the troops originally went into NI to protect the Catholics from the Protestants. If the army had pulled out there would have been be Civil War. Why should a Protestant who has lived in Ireland since 1689 have to go and live in England? |
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