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Ireland was invaded by England and taken over - there is a difference between Texas and Northern Ireland. We did win Texas during a war - but they chose to become part of the US. Did Ireland ever have a choice to be part of Britain? I find it rather distrubing the prejudice between catholics and protestants that still exists in Great Britain. And it DOES exist.
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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As you have pointed out, "world-leader scale." As the leader of my nation, he better not bow to anyone! I don't care where he is. If it's a requirement, then they can come here. She's some figurehead that wasn't even elected by your people. It's been pointed out, she has no real power in your country. Give me a break. You bow to her if you feel it is a couresy, or show of respect. But I seriously doubt that you are the leader of a country. There's quite a difference. |
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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1772—San Antonio becomes the center of Spanish government for Texas ---(Spanish territories in North America) time and history pass... territories change hands... lots of new countries pop up and expand... blablabla... (too much to put here, sorry) 1821—Texas becomes part of Mexico; Mexico has won it's independence from Spain; American citizens immigrate into Texas (becoming Texans). But they are under Mexico's flag now, and Mexico's law. 1835—The Texas Revolution begins! Yee haw! --- (Battle of Gonzales on 10/3/1835, the Texans carried a white flag with a black canon on it with the words "COME AND TAKE IT" printed underneath. That did not later become the Republic of Texas' flag, though.) 1836—The Alamo falls to Mexican troops, despite a valiant and noble effort (this battle wins sympathy and support from the US, but the US did not fight Mexico); Mexico is defeated in the Battle of San Jacinto when Texans take Santa Anna by surprise, capturing him and defeating Mexico's troops; Texas becomes the independent Republic of Texas. They have their own goverment, laws, etc. The US did not provide any aid or support for the Texans in their fight for independence from Mexico, but there was great public sympathy after the Alamo. Because Texas was it's own independent nation, we can fly our flag at the same level as the US flag. Texas became concerned that Mexico would attempt another war with Texas. The population of former Americans pushes the idea of joining the US, which was more acceptable to being taken back by Mexico in another bloody and costly war. The Republic of Texas petitions the US for statehood. 12/29/1845- Texas became the 28th state in the United States of America. A provision in the agreement is that Texas can leave statehood anytime it wished. One year later, the US sends troops to defend the border between Mexico and the new state of Texas, as Mexico tries to push the border back and take part of the land back. Last edited by Ruinel : 11-25-2003 at 01:04 AM. |
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Yes, it is bizarre having these states in those positions. However, taking Libya as an example, here we have a country which used to sponsor terrorism (including the IRA) which is now being rehabilitated into the international community. I would've thought that was an improvement. I never knew that Texas was part of Mexico once upon a time. |
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Thanks for the info, I had heard about Alamo but I never knew the whole context. Interesting.
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I liked the "Come and take it" logo. That isn't even part of the story of the Alamo. You can find out more online. I'd post it here, but I'm afraid I'm boring everyone with the history of Texas. |
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As for demonstrating, as I said, we were primarily demonstrating against and because of the UK government's policy. Demonstrating has, of course, a perfectly legitimate secondary focus, which is to express the views of the mass. FYI, when the Chinese leader visited several years ago, there were demonstrations in London which were similarly managed by the authorities (so that the visitors did not become aware of any dissent). |
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By the way - great that the demonstrators managed to come out for the Chinese leader. But I think in Europe we're viewed lower than China so I don't think it attracted as many demonstrators as our president did.
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