The Official Languages Thread - Page 72

Grey_Wolf · 05-20-2004, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vicky
Pity, I guess we'll stick to plain old English...

Yes, unfortunately I don't know a word of dutch
so I guess that would be best.

Linaewen · 05-20-2004, 08:56 AM

I would like to try and translate the Dutch, but remember that (a) I hardly know any so (b) I would have to cheat with a dictionary and (c) I am really bad at idiomatic translation since Dutch is so strange.

Ik heb een map. Does that make sense? Nehehe.

Janny · 05-20-2004, 09:03 AM

Wir sagten:
GW: Also, weider spricht ihr dumme Fremdsprechen.
J: Werden wir nochmal auf 'Schwein Englisch' sprechen?
Ich glaube sie mochten der Konig uberwerfen (!!! opps)
GW: Ja, wir werden. Sie sind, oder? Das wird nicht nett sein.
V: Can you translate to Dutch?
GW: Es tut mir leid, das wird zu schwierig sein.

I'm sorry, you'll need to be German with fluent English to understand that... but all my sweet little direct translations! 'Over throw' as 'uberwerfen'! Ich bin so suss...

Edit: Also, Hallo Vicky! Schoen das du hier bist!

***Earniel*** · 05-20-2004, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linaewen
Ik heb een map. Does that make sense? Nehehe.

Sure, laugh with my old mistakes.

Lalaith · 05-20-2004, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Janny
Wir sagten:
GW: Also, weider spricht ihr dumme Fremdsprechen.
J: Werden wir nochmal auf 'Schwein Englisch' sprechen?
Ich glaube sie mochten der Konig uberwerfen (!!! opps)
GW: Ja, wir werden. Sie sind, oder? Das wird nicht nett sein.
V: Can you translate to Dutch?
GW: Es tut mir leid, das wird zu schwierig sein.

I'm sorry, you'll need to be German with fluent English to understand that... but all my sweet little direct translations! 'Over throw' as 'uberwerfen'! Ich bin so suss...

Edit: Also, Hallo Vicky! Schoen das du hier bist!

Some little corrections. If I may.

GW: Also, wieder sprecht ihr dumme Fremdsprachen.
J: Werden wir nochmal auf 'Schwein Englisch' sprechen? (Schwein Englisch? was ist denn das?)
Ich glaube, sie mochten der Konig stürzen
GW: Ja, wir werden. Sie sind, oder? (=> they are what?) Das wird nicht nett sein.
V: Can you translate to Dutch?
GW: Es tut mir leid, das wird zu schwierig sein.

Janny · 05-21-2004, 02:51 PM

Thanks, always appriciate it.

('Wieder' was a typo I swear!)
Schwein Englisch is the literal translation of what GW and I were doing... sticking 'ay' on the end of syllables. Some variations get really complicated, and sometimes it's called Pig Latin, not pig English.

'Sie sind, oder?' was kinda out of context... it was my attempt at the question 'Are they now?'

Lalaith · 05-21-2004, 03:54 PM

oh, I understand

Aber der Rest war nicht schlecht.

Janny · 05-21-2004, 04:52 PM

Ah, the rest was really slangy... couldn't you pretend it was hard to make my German appear better?

Lalaith · 05-22-2004, 05:25 AM

Nur nicht so bescheiden!

Janny · 05-22-2004, 01:50 PM

Only not so... erm... little help?

***Earniel*** · 05-22-2004, 06:09 PM

She's saying you're too modest, Janny.

Linaewen · 05-22-2004, 10:31 PM

So Deutsch also has very strange literal translations, does it? Not only Dutch?

Wonders if she should deliberately mix up the words Deutsch and Dutch just to confuse people like Eärniel again

***Earniel*** · 05-23-2004, 07:32 AM

Fne....

I've said before that Deutsch and Nederlands are often very similar, didn't I? 'bescheiden' is the same in Deutsch as it is in Nederlands.

Linaewen · 05-23-2004, 07:55 AM

Neheheh....

I know Dutch and Deutsch are similar, but I thought it was mostly Dutch that had the odd literal translations, and not Deutsch also. Or was that Deutsch and not Dutch? Dutch is easier than Deutsch, niet wahr? Or was that Deutsch, and not Dutch?

Oh, Eär. I was listening to a recording of someone saying something in Dutch (or Deutsch? Deutsch Dutch?

) and he pronounced 'is' as 'ish' and said it might've been his accent from where he's from. Do you also do that?

Lalaith · 05-23-2004, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linaewen

Wonders if she should deliberately mix up the words Deutsch and Dutch just to confuse people like Eärniel again

Tsss. Tssss. Tssss. Typical Lin!

I love to read Dutch descriptions of products. Always very funny to compare.

***Earniel*** · 05-23-2004, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linaewen
Oh, Eär. I was listening to a recording of someone saying something in Dutch (or Deutsch? Deutsch Dutch? ) and he pronounced 'is' as 'ish' and said it might've been his accent from where he's from. Do you also do that?

Keep your languages straight or I'll get so confused I'll start talking in my most dialectic Flemish.

And no, I don't say 'is' as 'ish'.

Janny · 05-23-2004, 02:12 PM

I'd say Dutch seems like a mix of German and English... at least I can kinda understand Arrow Classic Rock with just a vague understanding of the two...

Lalaith · 05-24-2004, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Janny
I'd say Dutch seems like a mix of German and English...

I'd say the same.

Hey, du solltest ins "Lovely Local Language" Thread gehen und schauen, ob du verstehst , was ich dort gepostet habe.

Artanis · 05-26-2004, 11:04 AM

Eärniel, if I may ask, when is Flandern's 'national day'?

***Earniel*** · 05-27-2004, 04:58 AM

The Belgian national day is the 21st of July.

The feast of the Flemish community (since Flanders isn't a nation) is the 11th of July.

Ironically I haven't been in Belgium for the last 20 years on those dates (since they fall in the only month my family goes on holiday) and thus sadly enough I have never seen the celebrations.

05-20-2004, 09:03 AM	#1423
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	Wir sagten: GW: Also, weider spricht ihr dumme Fremdsprechen. J: Werden wir nochmal auf 'Schwein Englisch' sprechen? Ich glaube sie mochten der Konig uberwerfen (!!! opps) GW: Ja, wir werden. Sie sind, oder? Das wird nicht nett sein. V: Can you translate to Dutch? GW: Es tut mir leid, das wird zu schwierig sein. I'm sorry, you'll need to be German with fluent English to understand that... but all my sweet little direct translations! 'Over throw' as 'uberwerfen'! Ich bin so suss... Edit: Also, Hallo Vicky! Schoen das du hier bist! __________________ Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton. Last edited by Janny : 05-20-2004 at 09:07 AM.

05-21-2004, 02:51 PM	#1426
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	Thanks, always appriciate it. ('Wieder' was a typo I swear!) Schwein Englisch is the literal translation of what GW and I were doing... sticking 'ay' on the end of syllables. Some variations get really complicated, and sometimes it's called Pig Latin, not pig English. 'Sie sind, oder?' was kinda out of context... it was my attempt at the question 'Are they now?' __________________ Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton.

05-21-2004, 03:54 PM	#1427
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	oh, I understand Aber der Rest war nicht schlecht. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

05-21-2004, 04:52 PM	#1428
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	Ah, the rest was really slangy... couldn't you pretend it was hard to make my German appear better? __________________ Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton.

05-22-2004, 05:25 AM	#1429
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Nur nicht so bescheiden! __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

05-20-2004, 08:56 AM	#1422
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	I would like to try and translate the Dutch, but remember that (a) I hardly know any so (b) I would have to cheat with a dictionary and (c) I am really bad at idiomatic translation since Dutch is so strange. Ik heb een map. Does that make sense? Nehehe.

05-22-2004, 01:50 PM	#1430
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	Only not so... erm... little help? __________________ Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton.

05-22-2004, 06:09 PM	#1431
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	She's saying you're too modest, Janny. __________________ We are not things.

05-22-2004, 10:31 PM	#1432
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	So Deutsch also has very strange literal translations, does it? Not only Dutch? Wonders if she should deliberately mix up the words Deutsch and Dutch just to confuse people like Eärniel again

05-23-2004, 07:32 AM	#1433
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Fne.... I've said before that Deutsch and Nederlands are often very similar, didn't I? 'bescheiden' is the same in Deutsch as it is in Nederlands. __________________ We are not things.

05-23-2004, 07:55 AM	#1434
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	Neheheh.... I know Dutch and Deutsch are similar, but I thought it was mostly Dutch that had the odd literal translations, and not Deutsch also. Or was that Deutsch and not Dutch? Dutch is easier than Deutsch, niet wahr? Or was that Deutsch, and not Dutch? Oh, Eär. I was listening to a recording of someone saying something in Dutch (or Deutsch? Deutsch Dutch? ) and he pronounced 'is' as 'ish' and said it might've been his accent from where he's from. Do you also do that?

05-23-2004, 02:12 PM	#1437
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	I'd say Dutch seems like a mix of German and English... at least I can kinda understand Arrow Classic Rock with just a vague understanding of the two... __________________ Janny's Songs Janny's lyrics and random photographs Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who happen to be walking about. ~ Mercutio... erm, GK Chesterton.

05-26-2004, 11:04 AM	#1439
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Eärniel, if I may ask, when is Flandern's 'national day'? __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

05-27-2004, 04:58 AM	#1440
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	The Belgian national day is the 21st of July. The feast of the Flemish community (since Flanders isn't a nation) is the 11th of July. Ironically I haven't been in Belgium for the last 20 years on those dates (since they fall in the only month my family goes on holiday) and thus sadly enough I have never seen the celebrations. __________________ We are not things.

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