Riddling IV

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by EllethValatari

Another one:

Presented clothed, hiding covered, dwindling slowly, traveling longer,
bringing bitterness, stirring anger: jealousy. trickery, mockery. gone.

Okay. It could be the Seven Rings of the Dwarves. I'll bet Sauron had his pants on when he handed them out!

[EllethValatari]

Originally Posted by Keith K

Okay. It could be the Seven Rings of the Dwarves. I'll bet Sauron had his pants on when he handed them out!

No, you guys are getting colder...here are my hints:

1. It's inanimate
2. It's from LoTR and possibly other places

[CAB]

Originally Posted by Valandil

Barrows of the Barrow Wights?

This is another excellent, yet incorrect, guess.

Hint: This is a The Hobbit riddle.

Originally Posted by Keith K

Middle Earth Bargain Hunting?
Only an Entmoot riddling sleuth
can locate this place with a toll-less booth.

Maybe you mean Thorin an Co's escape from the Elvenking's caverns? They avoided the ransom that the Elvenking surely would have demanded for their release (toll-less) by escaping in barrels (booths).

Originally Posted by EllethValatari

Another one:

Presented clothed, hiding covered, dwindling slowly, traveling longer,
bringing bitterness, stirring anger: jealousy. trickery, mockery. gone.

Wild guess: The pipe-weed that Merry or Pippin (can't remember which) recovered at Isengard that Saruman later took from him on the road.

[EllethValatari]

Presented clothed, hiding covered, dwindling slowly, traveling longer,
bringing bitterness, stirring anger: jealousy. trickery, mockery. gone.

Originally Posted by Thurin

Wild guess: The pipe-weed that Merry or Pippin (can't remember which) recovered at Isengard that Saruman later took from him on the road.

Getting warmer, but no! Same type of situation, though...

[Valandil]

Originally Posted by Thurin

Dark crowns in a giant green bowl,
Impatient sounds far below

OK - then it's Bilbo up in the tree in Mirkwood, seeing the emperor butterflies at the treetops - at a location where the ground sloped up all around (so he couldn't see far) - and the Dwarves were impatiently calling up to him to tell them what was going on.

[CAB]

Originally Posted by Valandil

OK - then it's Bilbo up in the tree in Mirkwood, seeing the emperor butterflies at the treetops - at a location where the ground sloped up all around (so he couldn't see far) - and the Dwarves were impatiently calling up to him to tell them what was going on.

Correct, sir!

[Wilhelm]

Presented clothed, hiding covered, dwindling slowly, traveling longer,
bringing bitterness, stirring anger: jealousy. trickery, mockery. gone.

Could this be Lembas?

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Could this be Lembas?

I was thinking lembas the other day, but I couldn't make it fit the clues.

[EllethValatari]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Could this be Lembas?

Yes, actually, it is. It was presented "clothed" in a leaf, it was "hiding" with Frodo and Sam as they traveled through Mordor, it dwindled slowly because it was so filling, it traveled longer because it dwindled slowly, Gollum hated it and thought all Hobbit food was bitter, or at least it made him bitter, it made him mad,
and then that built in with his jealousy of Frodo with the Ring caused him to take it, mock Sam, and throw it away.

[Keith K]

Middle Earth Bargain Hunting?
Only an Entmoot riddling sleuth
can locate this place with a toll-less booth.

Originally Posted by Thurin

Maybe you mean Thorin an Co's escape from the Elvenking's caverns? They avoided the ransom that the Elvenking surely would have demanded for their release (toll-less) by escaping in barrels (booths).

Nope. Those are not the correct booths. However, I suppose that there are some in Thorin & Co. who would know the answer. Thanks for guessing, Thurin.

Next!

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by EllethValatari

Yes, actually, it is. It was presented "clothed" in a leaf, it was "hiding" with Frodo and Sam as they traveled through Mordor, it dwindled slowly because it was so filling, it traveled longer because it dwindled slowly, Gollum hated it and thought all Hobbit food was bitter, or at least it made him bitter, it made him mad,
and then that built in with his jealousy of Frodo with the Ring caused him to take it, mock Sam, and throw it away.

Nice riddle, Elleth! Thanks for posting it.

[EllethValatari]

Only you can lead them through; awake the allegiance owed to you.

To answer this riddle, you must identify "you" and "through" what that person can lead them.

Riddle on, Riddlers!

[Midge]

I'll go with the obvious - you=Aragorn and through the Dwimorberg.

[EllethValatari]

Originally Posted by Midge

I'll go with the obvious - you=Aragorn and through the Dwimorberg.

Correct! Easy riddle

[CAB]

Originally Posted by Keith K

Middle Earth Bargain Hunting?
Only an Entmoot riddling sleuth
can locate this place with a toll-less booth.



Nope. Those are not the correct booths. However, I suppose that there are some in Thorin & Co. who would know the answer. Thanks for guessing, Thurin.

Next!

How about Moria, then? It allowed passage from one side of the Misty Mts. to the other while avoiding the Beornings' tolls (they guarded the High Pass).

[Keith K]

Originally Posted by Thurin

How about Moria, then? It allowed passage from one side of the Misty Mts. to the other while avoiding the Beornings' tolls (they guarded the High Pass).

Good guess, Thorin & Co. would for sure know that. It's not the toll-less booth I am thinking of.

I should note that it is not so much as a toll, but rather a fee. In any case, it's a cost. As traders, the Dwarves might know of it, but Gandalf and Bilbo definitely would.

Thanks for trying. Please guess again.

[Wilhelm]

Originally Posted by EllethValatari

Yes, actually, it is. It was presented "clothed" in a leaf, it was "hiding" with Frodo and Sam as they traveled through Mordor, it dwindled slowly because it was so filling, it traveled longer because it dwindled slowly, Gollum hated it and thought all Hobbit food was bitter, or at least it made him bitter, it made him mad,
and then that built in with his jealousy of Frodo with the Ring caused him to take it, mock Sam, and throw it away.

I have a silly question... Please... no one take offense - I am not trying to discount this riddle in any way. It is a great riddle. I am simply questioning my own faculties.

Here's the question: In the books did Gollum throw away the Lembas? If so can you please point me at the passage.

I know he did in the movie but I have no recollection of it occurring in writing. When I was thinking if Lembas was the answer to the riddle I recalled the movie scene and the trickery/mockery that it represented but, could not (and still can't) recall or find the passage in the book where this happens.

As a matter of record, I have no issue with scenes from the movie being part of a riddle - it will open up some additional creative options. I think it makes our sandbox that little bit bigger.

[Valandil]

Sure he did. He crumbled them all over Sam. And then he through the rest down the mountain. And that's what made Frodo tell Sam to go home.

I SAW him do it... I KNOW he did it!!!

[Midge]

Originally Posted by EllethValatari

Correct! Easy riddle

Oh. I was expecting that to be a wrong guess. I'm on a roll of wrong guesses lately.

Middle Earth Bargain Hunting?
Only an Entmoot riddling sleuth
can locate this place with a toll-less booth.

Huh. Would it be the door by which Bilbo escaped the Misty Mountains, and the "fee" was his buttons?

[Wilhelm]

Only an Entmoot riddling sleuth
can locate this place with a toll-less booth.

Yikes... There is not a lot to work with in this riddle....

Gandalf and Bilbo know it and it potentially costs something (at least until it becomes toll-less). It is probably in the Shire if Bilbo knows it and would predate the war of the ring (eliminating the redecorating done by Saruman)

A complete and total guess...

The Free Fair held during Lithe on the White Downs. Hobbits were "free" to set up "booths" to buy and sell things during the fair.