Imagine...

[Earniel]

Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

Imagine:
- Why is the Creator disappointed in us?

Because he spent all that time making a believable case for evolution with a nifty fossil record, geological layers, genetic mechanisms and such and after more than 2000 years we're still not believing it! Where are the days when a burning bush as all it took to make people believe in anything?

- What is the Creator's new project? It can be anything!

Possibly tweaking the fysical laws somewhat: speed of light, gravitational power, ect... and see us panic.

[Nurvingiel]

I was not spamming Grey Wolf, though I think that's a hilarious quote!

I love your suggestions Eärniel! Maybe these laws are being slooowly adjusted as we speak!

Messing with our minds is the Creator's next project, just for fun, because She's disappointed in us.

I have proof that the Creator is actually changing the physical laws to mess with our heads. When I was in high school, only six years ago, the Bohr model of the atom was regarded as correct, and it had no flaws. Then, in first year university chemistry, 2 years ago, the latest developments in science showed that it did have flaws.

Since they would never teach us wrong or incomplete science in high school (which our teachers asserted themselves), it follows that the laws of physics and chemistry (which are both at work in the Bohr model of the atom) changed between 6 years ago and 2 years ago!

Think of examples that haven't even been noticed which could have profound impacts on our lives!

[Grey_Wolf]

Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

I was not spamming Grey Wolf, though I think that's a hilarious quote!

I love your suggestions Eärniel! Maybe these laws are being slooowly adjusted as we speak!

Messing with our minds is the Creator's next project, just for fun, because She's disappointed in us.

I have proof that the Creator is actually changing the physical laws to mess with our heads. When I was in high school, only six years ago, the Bohr model of the atom was regarded as correct, and it had no flaws. Then, in first year university chemistry, 2 years ago, the latest developments in science showed that it did have flaws.

Since they would never teach us wrong or incomplete science in high school (which our teachers asserted themselves), it follows that the laws of physics and chemistry (which are both at work in the Bohr model of the atom) changed between 6 years ago and 2 years ago!

Think of examples that haven't even been noticed which could have profound impacts on our lives!

*of course you weren't spamming, and glad you liked the quote*

And you're quite right. Things that were thought to be correct once could "suddenly" be found to be incorrect because of new research.

[Nurvingiel]

New research..... or new changes?

What does everyone else thing? Do you still want to play?

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Nurvingiel suggested I post an 'Imagine if I were PM'
so here t'is:

if i get into power
(vote for me guys)
Demobilise army etc
Much fairer welfare state
Killing animals for pleasure banned
Animal testing banned
Cannabis fully legal
and other stuff also
All university education free
All education free full stop
Monarchy abolished
Boris Johnson as permanent presenter for 'Have I Got News For You'

Thoughts and Ideas please.

[Nurvingiel]

There are definitely some Brits (besides you I mean) who would like to see the monarchy abolished. They probably aren't as numerous as people who want to keep it, or those who don't care, but...

Without the Monarchy, what/who do you propose as the head of state? Will you re-write necessary laws? Have a president instead of a Prime Minister? Will the head of state be elected?

Your ideas are very interesting Chrys... What party would you run for? Or will you run as an Independent?

So Imagine... a new Britain under Prime Minister Chrys!

[sun-star]

OK, *puts on Jeremy Paxman hat* I have some questions:

Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

Much fairer welfare state

In what way? NHS, education, social security... what do you think is unfair at the moment?

Animal testing banned

What would you replace it with? Compulsory human testing?

All university education free

I like this one

All education free full stop

Primary and secondary education is already free. Do you mean you would abolish private schools?

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally Posted by sun-star

OK, *puts on Jeremy Paxman hat* I have some questions:

<Does Newsnight theme>

In what way? NHS, education, social security... what do you think is unfair at the moment?

The way that you cannot claim JSA for more than 16 weeks is a bit unfair, isn't it?

What would you replace it with? Compulsory human testing?

yes, test on murderers, paedophiles etc.

Primary and secondary education is already free. Do you mean you would abolish private schools?

yep, why have a two-tier education? what purpose does it serve other than to highlight class differences?

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

There are definitely some Brits (besides you I mean) who would like to see the monarchy abolished. They probably aren't as numerous as people who want to keep it, or those who don't care, but...

Without the Monarchy, what/who do you propose as the head of state? Will you re-write necessary laws? Have a president instead of a Prime Minister? Will the head of state be elected?

Your ideas are very interesting Chrys... What party would you run for? Or will you run as an Independent?

So Imagine... a new Britain under Prime Minister Chrys!

I would run for the LCA
PM as head of state and head of government
so not many laws need ammending.
if commonwealth countries want to keep royals, they can have them!!

[sun-star]

*now feeling more like Kirsty Wark, and in the mood to play devil's advocate*

Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

The way that you cannot claim JSA for more than 16 weeks is a bit unfair, isn't it?

Is it? When the Govt has so many schemes to help people find jobs?

yes, test on murderers, paedophiles etc.

With or without their consent? And who does the 'etc' apply to - rapists/burglars/fraudsters as well?

yep, why have a two-tier education? what purpose does it serve other than to highlight class differences?

I agree, but is the best way to abolish these schools totally? The rich will always find ways of educating their children to the highest standard that money can pay for - will you outlaw private tutors as well? Would you abolish private hospitals?

If I'm going to vote for you I want to know these things

[Pytt]

what is JSA? and this NHS? is these things that occur in the american school system?

[sun-star]

Originally Posted by Pytt

what is JSA? and this NHS? is these things that occur in the american school system?

No, in the British welfare system.

JSA = Job Seekers Allowance, benefits for people who are unemployed
NHS = National Health Service, the British health care system

Sorry about that, Pytt. I'll try not to use abbreviations non-British people can't understand in future

[Pytt]

thanks
yes, maybe try that. it's not that understandable.

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally Posted by sun-star

*now feeling more like Kirsty Wark, and in the mood to play devil's advocate*

is that not more like keanu reeves, then

Is it? When the Govt has so many schemes to help people find jobs?

The Jobcentre made no attempt to help me find a job when i was unemployed

With or without their consent? And who does the 'etc' apply to - rapists/burglars/fraudsters as well?

with or without consent, i'm not fussed, they are the lowest of the low in my mind, and etc applies to rapists and the such like

I agree, but is the best way to abolish these schools totally? The rich will always find ways of educating their children to the highest standard that money can pay for - will you outlaw private tutors as well? Would you abolish private hospitals?

yes, private hospitals should be abolished, they are taking good doctors away from the NHS, and thus people who often need them more

If I'm going to vote for you I want to know these things

i hope i have answered your questions, electorate

[sun-star]

Yes indeed, Prime Minister hopeful

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

with or without consent, i'm not fussed, they are the lowest of the low in my mind, and etc applies to rapists and the such like

Should it just apply to people who have caused others extreme pain like rapists or petty criminals like thieves?

[The Gaffer]

Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

yes, private hospitals should be abolished, they are taking good doctors away from the NHS, and thus people who often need them more

Looks like that's a work in progress at the moment.

Recent changes to doctors' contracts mean that for the first time the NHS can tell them how much private practice they're allowed to do.

Allied to this, the NHS has recently begun to introduce tariffs for medical procedures. What this means is that they set a standard price for the intervention. As it happens, this is based on NHS costs, which are far lower than private costs (because the NHS is much more efficient). The result seriously threatens the revenues of private health care companies such as BUPA.

These changes won't end up in eliminating private medicine, but they may seriously erode it.

[inked]

LCoU, do you really mean to reduce every human being to cipher status. Tho' a criminal may deserve forfeiture of life for his or her crimes, to make them guineau pigs against their will is make them subhuman. Better to terminate their existence that reduce them to that. Your government sounds very much like the N.I.C.E in THAT HIDEOUS STRENGTH by CS Lewis.
You'd not want to be a patient there.

Your type of government only works if your are the Big Cheese. or head spider! When the proletariat or the bourgese get tired of you, you get to swing like Mussolini! Don't you wish for more out of life?

Bear in mind, O voters of the Great Continent of Entmoot, that LCoU really means to be his name! Be afraid!

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I suppose the US must get ready for another influx of British doctors! The government is legislating them out of business if I read your statements correctly. One can only hope that they do that next to LCoU and the Gaffer whatever employment their mean, drab little lives offer ! Let them eat cake!!!

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

If the people that test the cosmetics etc on animals on themselves then they should test them on anyone or anything.

[Nurvingiel]

Cosmetics and such don't really need to be tested on animals. I'm sure you could pay someone to squirt shampoo in his eye. (Enough to make it worthwhile for the person.) I think it's possible to eliminate animal testing in most areas without having compulsory human testing.

There are scientific experiments that probably couldn't be done if they weren't at least first tested on animals.

Of course, being forced to grow an ear on your back would be a deterrent to violent crimes, but I don't believe the prison system works like that. There are three main functions of the prison system: punish people for commiting crimes, keep law-abiding people safe from criminals, and help criminals reform (this is not very evident in a lot of systems, but IIRC some have counsellors).

For someone to commit a horrible crime like rape, they are not just violent, but they really have something mentally wrong. In Britain under Chrys, a rapist (or similarly horrible criminal) would forgeit nearly all his human rights if I understand you correctly.

This is an interesting concept to think about. Do you think people would go for it? Personally, I hesitate to strip human rights from even the lowest of scum bags.