01-28-2004, 05:16 PM | #121 |
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i agree with IR... whoever looks best in november is getting my vote... other than the fringe candidates, which won't win the nomination anyway, they are all improvments over gwb
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This was brought up in the Superbowl Commercials thread, but I feel my question would be more appropriate here.
About moveon.org, I don't support Bush, but I don't support making up random numbers either. The USA doesn't really have a $1 trillion defecit, right? Why do they say that? (This was in an ad called "Child's Pay" by Charlie Fisher, on their website.)
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Thanks for the link Gollum. I have seen the ad, I was just wondering where their defecit information came from.
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As the economy picks up - the government brings in more tax revenue, which will help to bring down the deficit - we will have to cut back on spending though. I don't really like the amount we are spending on stuff - but some of it is very necessary.
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400 Billion dollars is a huge defecit. The Anti-Bush website could have stuck with the real numbers and made their point more effectively. In my mind, they destroyed their credibility by making that up.
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i thought that it was trying to put out a message that at this rat e there will be a trillion dollar deficit if bush is reelected
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If that's what they meant, they should have been more clear. They made it seem like that's the current debt.
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Well it looks like the John Kerry train has a full head of steam going. And Bush has had a really bad month or so and has dropped a lot in the polls. So what are people's thoughts now on the election? I havent heard very much "landslide" talk out of republicans of late as I did most of last year. Theyve kind of clammed up. And they can no longer salivate about facing a Howard Dean as an opponent. Now they have to deal with a much tougher advisary I think. A well liked democrat with a military background who knows how to get along in the congress. I bet Carl Rove is blue printing his october surprise plans as we speak though. Hes capable of anything.
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02-08-2004, 02:26 PM | #133 |
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Have just been starting to see a bit of Kerry here and there -if this is the 'new and improved' ' all fired up' model, what was the old one like?
This guy is a terrible public speaker.
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02-08-2004, 03:01 PM | #134 |
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I still like Edwards. I'll vote for him if he's in the Indiana primary. Kerry....I just can't get too excited, I guess cause he's tried before and didn't "have it" . The only thing I can say negative I suppose is "no charisma". Is this important? (It is to me, but I can't defend why....just a gut thing. )
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So somebody want to explain to me why Dean is getting such grief about dropping out (and the media has just been peppering him with this since like New Hampshire) just because his once full speed ahead campeign train has stalled and is now literally falling apart all around him and yet they never really ask the same thing to Kucinich or Sharpton who obviously never had a chance from the start? Why cant Dean just become another view point candidate who is destined not to win (like those other two)? Is it because the democratic party still considers him too dangerous and wants his supporters to jump on the Kerry bandwagon? Is it really healthy for the democrats to have their candidate determined by mid January when the election isnt until November and you risk the possibility of people losing their interest in him? What the heck more could Kerry possibly say about Bush by say May that he hasnt already said?
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Well it seems I'm a little late to the party. It's fun to read everyone's speculation before Iowa and before Bush started slipping. Btw please keep full-fledged discussion of issues, such as gay marriage, out of this thread.
Question for Arien the Maia and other Indiana residents: Would having Evan Bayh the vice-presidential candidate influence your vote in November? From what I've heard, Sen. Bayh is extremely popular and could even allow the Democrats to carry the state. If Kerry retained all the states that Gore won in 2000, the addition of Indiana would give him the presidency. Quote:
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I'm also disappointed with the media's coverage of the race - they essentially ignored General Clark, the most qualified man in the race. The coverage of Dean's "scream" was way over the top, even more crazy than the actual scream. Still, Dean wasn't exactly best friends with the press. If he would be getting poor coverage all through the general election, then it's good he's not going to be the nominee. Not fair, but realistic. Quote:
I didn't think Kerry was the most electable candidate (a stiff Massachusetts liberal!), but the polling evidence is hard to ignore. Democrats came to their primaries in record numbers, and they selected Kerry. One thing that will weigh heavily is that Kerry is a decorated combat veteran from Vietnam. Bush, on the other hand, despite supporting the Vietnam War, decided to bravely defend the shores of Texas. His last name got him into the Guard over 500 other people. Once there, he didn't show up for his physical and so was grounded from further flights. He got out of the Guard months early to attend Harvard business school. There is also a several month long period where Bush's whereabouts are unknown, when he was supposed to be at the Guard. The one guy who claims to have seen him there has all the wrong dates - he claims to have seen Bush at the base months before Bush's own records put him there. The veteran/military vote will go to Kerry this year.
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So where is Kerry going to get the military vote? From the Vietnam veterans who were against vetenam I suppose. I guess once the REAL campaigning begins and the november comes closer - we will see.
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Looks like Howard Dean is out of the race now. John Edwards is still hanging in there and I like him, but it's academic now, I think. Kerry looks to be the Democratic nominee.
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