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I saw this movie twice now, and I am a born again Christian, and for me, it was a good made movie that was very realistic and acurite to what happened. But, it did not 'touch' me very much. I guess it is because I already know what happened to my Christ, and I don't need a movie to verify what I believe.
I do think that it was a very good movie and I am glad Mel Gibson made it, but for me, it seems to be a movie that new believers or non-christians should go see so that they can see what Christ did for us. It does sort of clue a person in to what he all went through (even though they did not take it to the extremes like it was back then). So, I would have to say that it was a good movie, especially when now-a-days gore and stuff like that is what people are interested in so they will go see it.
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Lot's of you keep talking about not going to see it because of the violence. If you stay away from certain movies because of violence then you must have missed hundreds of wonderful movies including Braveheart, Saving Private Ryan...and lots of others. The point is not the violence. I was definitely wincing a lot of the time but this was a beautiful movie. Beautiful scenery, great acting, and a happy ending! It has good guys, bad guys, really good guys and really bad guys. You don't have to be a believer to see that this was a well-made movie worth seeing...
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The Nazi German were "wicked" much more than the Jews even if they killed Jesus. It's wrong to compare the holocaust with the crucifiction (sp.) of Jesus. And if he used that example, he's a jerk. And I have nothing against your believes or Christianity, really. I just happen to be born Jewish and therefore not to believe in Jesus. |
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it is NOT at ALL only gory scenes. it is a powerful, moving, heart breaking, heart wrenching film. ignore those crap critics on this one. GO SEE IT. you too Nurvingiel!
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I don't know if I can handle it, I know it's not 100% gore, but the serious violence is there.
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its nice to hear some positive about this movie from someone who isnt christian.
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RtB made some great points, if you think that Jesus's life=6million (or over), you must either glorify Jesus to an astonishing extent or hold a queer value of human life, both wrong to me... Quote:
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I went and saw it last night. I twas ectrememly moving for me...sort of intense as well. I think the most powerful parts for me were the ones with Satan in them. Especially when they show his defeat at the end. I too didn't understand the whole baby scene though? what was that about?
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we're not asking you to accept christianity or anything. but I take it you havent even seen the film yet, so how would you know if it was anti semitic? jfishannah was simply saying that just because some nation's ancestors did bad things doesnt mean that that particular nation is evil. she was defending you, and so was gibson.
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In response to the other, Christians believe that the life of Jesus Christ was worth not just the lives, but the souls of all mankind from the dawning to the sealing of time. That is not to say that the Jews are any more guilty for His death than I or Rian is; they did not kill Him, He laid down His life.
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correct. we all crucified him, but it was meant to be in rder for the salvation of man's soul.
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The movie might not be anti-semitic, but I wasn't furious about the movie - I was about the comment. From what I understand - she said that it is right to show the Jews as 'wicked' for murdering Jesus, as it is right to show the German wicked for murdering 6 million people. I can't really see how you can compare between the two. Even if the Jews tried to kill Jesus - were they 'evil'? I think the precepts in the Bible say that you mustn't say you're God - punishment is death. (like many other punishments). The Jews simply followed the precepts, they weren't wicked even if they killed Jesus (and they didn't). The Nazis, on the other hand, killed 6 millions people without an explanation nor reason. I do not blame the Germans until now, and I don't think many Christians blame the Jews until now - but the comparison is outrageous in my opinion. |
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You cannot really compare the two - you are right.
1 man, no matter how great you think he was does not equate to 6 million plus jews and millions of other groups of people. I have things of new waves of anti-semitism due to this movie, but I don't see why. There is absolutely no proof of Jesus even existing, let alone who "killed" him. Most importantly, if he hadn't been killed, the whole christian religion would not even exist - so if jews were responsible you should thank them not hate them.
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I saw the trailer to this movie last night. Those torture scenes were a solid blow to my gut. I've seen worse things than this before, but this was very realistic. I think I'll try to watch the movie anyway, because it is really a moving story, whether you believe ot not.
And now I'm curious to why some people say it is an anti-semitic movie.
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But it leads to more anti-semitism incidents - and so I do think it has some anti-semitism in it, of some sort. I haven't seen teh movie yet, if I see it at all - so I can't tell you why. |
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