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Old 04-16-2007, 07:27 PM   #121
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yeah, Legolas (the arrow) was a real twit. He finally shattered Eomer always shoots well.

Alan Lee is awesome! I bought "The Hobbit" version that he illustrated.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:03 PM   #122
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:24 PM   #123
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Gandalf has to be in; the question has to be is there enough botox in Christendom for Ian Holm to look the same age as Frodo did in LOTR?
He shouldn't look the same age. They were the same age, but Frodo had already had the ring for years, so he looked unnaturally young.
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Old 04-28-2007, 12:27 PM   #124
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In the book I got to know the dwarves not at all during their long tea. They were mostly singing collectively, while Bilbo fetched things. So I'd rather they skipped that so I could see them in more individuated circumstances. A nice long creep through Mirkwood, for example.

What explanation of the Elven-kings halls would you like to see?
Well, I basically meant that movies based on books have a tendency to make ridiculously fast jumps in the story.
I don't wanna see no movie that goes "Gandalf knocks on Bilbo's door, AND NOW EVERYONE'S IN ELROND'S HOUSE!"

I think it's better to clearly explain events, rather than skipping all kinds of important parts of the story.

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Old 07-30-2007, 07:10 PM   #125
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Gandalf The Hobbit Movie Will Happen

I'd love to see a Hobbit Movie. Does it matter all that much who directs however? Peter Jackson did as far as I am concerned do an outstanding job on the Lord of the Rings, but does this mean there could not be another equally talented Peter Jackson out there?
The important point I feel is that a Hobbit movie does ultimately become reality, irregardless of who directs it in the end.
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:33 PM   #126
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psst...irregardless is a double negative...
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:33 PM   #127
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:49 PM   #128
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You just love contradicting people, don't you?

...Which argument?
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:58 PM   #129
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:31 PM   #130
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:21 AM   #131
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Ian Mckellen! You may think you are getting away with distoring Tolkien's art! But you shall KNOW justice! You shall not escape the Beam of Justice that is the wrath of tolkienites, you shall not ruin yet another Tolkien project with your disgraceful interpretations! Ian McKellen, I condemn you to the utter depths of C-grade movies forever! May your influence fade, may your memory be stamped with contempt, may your shoes shine, and may be be rid of you as Gandalf!
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The more time that passes, the less likely that Ian McKellen will play Gandalf in the Hobbit or any other film. (He is getting older, like everyone else )

At some point it will be too late for him to play the role.

I did not think that he (Ian McKellen) did a bad job as Gandalf. At times he played the bumbling fool, but I think this had more to do with direction than skills as an actor.

I still am partial to Gandalf from the animated cartoon, The Hobbit. The voice of John Huston seemed just right to me.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:53 AM   #132
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It doesn't matter who plays who or who directs a Hobbit movie, it'll clean up at the box office and all of us will see it. Then we can spend the next year criticizing every little piece of it as we did with PJ's movies because that's us.
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It doesn't matter who plays who or who directs a Hobbit movie, it'll clean up at the box office and all of us will see it. Then we can spend the next year criticizing every little piece of it as we did with PJ's movies because that's us.
Probably true.

A mini-series would be an interesting format for the hobbit. (I doubt it will happen, but it would be interesting.)
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:54 PM   #134
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.....A mini-series would be an interesting format for the hobbit. (I doubt it will happen, but it would be interesting.)

I like the idea of a mini-series. I would schedule my time so I could watch it even though I rarely watch much TV any more. It would be nice to see it in a form that would allow more of the story to be told instead of having it pared down for a single movie.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:57 PM   #135
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Ian Mckellen! You may think you are getting away with distoring Tolkien's art! But you shall KNOW justice! You shall not escape the Beam of Justice that is the wrath of tolkienites, you shall not ruin yet another Tolkien project with your disgraceful interpretations! Ian McKellen, I condemn you to the utter depths of C-grade movies forever! May your influence fade, may your memory be stamped with contempt, may your shoes shine, and may be be rid of you as Gandalf!

Oh, shut up. Ian McKellen is a highly skilled actor. I agree that he wasn't the best as Gandalf, but can we please keep the homophobia in check?
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No kidding.

I thought he was brilliant as Gandalf, and I had no idea he was gay at the time. Because, frankly, it doesn't really matter.
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:39 PM   #138
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So. Aside from side-swipes and body checks, can someone please sum up the developments of a Hobbit film and whatever was selected as "a second prequel"?
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Okay, looked for myself:

http://www.ifmagazine.com/new.asp?article=4886

The Flatulent One is apparently eyeing another Tolkien book to make unrecognizable...
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:58 PM   #140
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The Hobbit is a much simpler story than the Lord of the Rings with different pacing (as we all know it was written for young children) and tone; if anything a movie with the same tone of PJ's LOTR would actually have to draw things out more - esp the Battle of the Five Armies (which Bilbo really does not participate in). I would like to see what PJ would do with Mirkwood (as creepiness is what he likes best). As far as casting is concerned if it is a New Line/PJ production then I would want Ian as Gandalf (and if you are squeamish about a gay man playing Gandalf then you don't know actors all that well). Bilbo however I would expect someone besides Ian Holm but I it wouldn't surprise me if he were to jump on board. However if PJ is not involved I would imagine none of the actors from LOTR would care much to participate (caveat being $). In any case the LOTR movies grossed over 2.9 BILLION dollars so of course The Hobbit will be made.
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