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08-26-2004, 01:43 AM | #122 |
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Yes, I've heard you've got some whopper storms in your area, Liz!
It's a beautiful night here in California for Lief and me. But then again, you have "real" weather, and we don't *longs for a good thunderstorm*
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 08-26-2004 at 03:16 AM. |
08-26-2004, 01:46 AM | #123 | |
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08-26-2004, 01:49 AM | #124 | |
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Ah, the beach ... I always think fondly of my Entmoot friends "across the pond" when I'm at the Pac Ocean ...
BTW, your sig just cracks me up!! I'll quote it for posterity, because people always change their sigs, and then posts about them don't make sense anymore : Quote:
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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08-26-2004, 01:53 AM | #125 | |
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08-26-2004, 03:15 AM | #126 |
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IRex - I just realized that you're using all sorts of words and phrases, like (and I'll quote from your post) "attack" and "screaming" and "cop out" and "intolerant" and "wrong headed" and "oppressive and despotic and tyrannical" and "sickens" and "misguided and misinformed" and "shame". It seems like you're rather angry at me and those that think like I do. Are you? But IIRC, it's your opinion that people's actions are entirely driven by their genes. And if that's true, then why should you be angry with me and those that believe like I do on this subject? According to your opinion, we can't help it, so therefore we certainly don't deserve your anger. Do you think that's right?
EDIT - I typed your name in large font so it would catch your eye because it came after a lot of chit-chat with Lief. It seems like on other people's computers that it's really large and annoying, but on mine, it's only slightly larger than the font on the rest of the post Anyway, I'm not "yelling" at you, I'm just trying to catch your eye. People do the same thing with me (put my name in large font) when they're trying to catch my eye, and I appreciate their effort to ensure that I see their post. But I'll reconsider if it's showing up as really large and annoying on other people's computers.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 08-26-2004 at 12:52 PM. |
08-26-2004, 08:58 AM | #127 |
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what's with the big names R*an?
IR loves to use big words, btw... i wouldn't take it personally
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08-26-2004, 11:06 AM | #128 |
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*admires her name in large and bold letters*
I used a larger font for his name, Brownie, because the post came after a lot of chit-chat with Lief, and I figured he's probably miss it otherwise, and I really wanted to hear his opinion on the subject I'm trying to not take it personally, but I'm also trying to see if I can understand his position on the subject, because for me, what he says and how he's acting don't jive, and I'd like to see if it can be explained. That's all oh you of underused capitalization
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 08-26-2004 at 11:08 AM. |
08-26-2004, 11:07 AM | #129 |
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Why do you keep typing everybody's name in giant letters Rian?
I see somebody else asked you too...hint...it's annoying...
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08-26-2004, 11:12 AM | #130 |
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See above post for why I typed IRex's name in large font, and I typed brownie's name in large font for fun, and I typed your name in large font awhile back because it was a serious post you made about my post and there was a TON of posts between it and I wanted to catch your attention because I reponded to your post. That's all. People type my name in large font, too, in situations like that, and I appreciate it, because it catches my eye and I know they want me to see the post But I guess not everyone thinks like I do.
(and maybe the letters are giant-er on your screen, but on mine, they're hardly bigger than the rest of the post )
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 08-26-2004 at 11:37 AM. |
08-26-2004, 11:18 AM | #131 | |
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And as I said, it doesn't annoy me at ALL when people do that to me (or to others) because I think it's just because they want to catch the person's eye, esp. in a thread with lots of posts. I know I often annoy you, but if brownie is annoyed, too, and it's really large on your computers, then I'll probably stop.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 08-26-2004 at 11:35 AM. |
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08-26-2004, 12:17 PM | #132 |
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I am capable of discerning if a post is directed at me or not. On my computer it's this HUGE thick black howler thing. I don't need the "mommy" treatment.
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08-26-2004, 12:51 PM | #133 |
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But it's not a matter of discerning. I don't doubt that you can discern if a post is directed at you. It was a matter of NOTICING the post after lots of others had gone by about off-topic things.
I meant well, and I appreciate when people do it for me, so I figured people felt the same way. I guess I'm wrong. Also, it's not at ALL a "HUGE thick black howler thing"!! As I said, it's not even twice as large, only about half again as large, and it's the same thickness and darkness as the rest of the post. But I'll go change it, as it seems like other people's computers show it larger and blacker. I found that with certain settings in my computer, the size=1 option didn't even show up as any different, so I guess it's the same thing going on here.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 08-26-2004 at 12:54 PM. |
08-26-2004, 12:53 PM | #134 |
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Alright, I just changed it to size=4, and it is the EXACT same font size as the rest of the post. The EXACT same size! So what does it look like to other people?
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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Now, since you guys are jumping up and down on your American democracy soap box then let me piggy back on that thinking and point out that in this great democracy one of our most cherished fundaments is that we do not arbitrarily and without reason limit the freedoms and civil liberties of other citizens. We determined this was wrong during the civil rights struggles of the 50s and 60s (even though we stated it was wrong when we wrote the constitution but bias and illegal prior amendments undermined this truth for hundreds of years). Therefore, any attempt to in fact enact discriminatory legislation should be impossible by its very definition. I don’t like the idea of living under a government that feels it can arbitrarily and without cause limit my personal freedoms for doing something that hurts no one else. I do however appreciate that we live in a society that cant legally tell me you cant eat at that counter because we don’t like yer kind here (or because we sincerely believe doing so is harmful to yourself or society or such rot). Sure I can THINK it all I want. I can BELIEVE it all I want. But the minute my thinking and my believing becomes overt enactment of equal right limiting ACTION then I need to hit a serious cement wall and go no further. The answer to that needs to be sorry that’s not an option here. We don’t discriminate arbitrarily here. Not oh sure you can discriminate if you get enough people who want to discriminate with you. That’s crap. Every fool in the world can be against the concept of gay marriage and ill still be fighting them and showing them that according to the founding ideals of this country that you CANT do that. That is until they nail me up and burn me at the stake. Quote:
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Here's Lizra's phrase in some different sizes: On my computer it's this HUGE thick black howler thing - size1 On my computer it's this HUGE thick black howler thing - size2 On my computer it's this HUGE thick black howler thing - size3 On my computer it's this HUGE thick black howler thing - size4 On my computer it's this HUGE thick black howler thing - size5 On my computer it's this HUGE thick black howler thing - size6 On my computer it's this HUGE thick black howler thing - size7 On MY (R*an's) computer, size 3 and 4 are both normal. 2 is smaller by about 1/3. 1 is teensy. 5 is bigger by about a third. 6 is a screamer, and 7 is a howler! I bet you have your computer set to large text, so my 5 (slightly bigger) is your 7 (howler). Anyway, I guess I'll stick to size 4 just so I'm not howling at anyone
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 08-26-2004 at 05:36 PM. |
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Ill just say this though: your genes in combination with your ENVIRONMENT have sure allowed you to believe some pretty far out things. But Ill have to admit if I was raised EXACTLY under the SAME circumstances to this point in life as you were then I too would hold the exact same opinions on things that you do. So much for your vaunted free will.
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Homosexual marriage was only one example brought up to support various points. I realize that to you it's been the center of the discussion now that you tell me it has been. To me the discussion has been far broader. I guess I was right, that we've been talking over one another's heads all this time. A fairly pointless exercise .
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Even though homosexual marriage has not the main topic from my point of view, I guess I'll respond to what you said on it anyway. For my own pleasure, which is one of the three reasons why I do debate here. You do make some thought provoking points, Insidious Rex .
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On a sidenote: In plenty of other cultures even in modern days people are allowed to marry earlier. When individuals gain maturity also can vary enormously based upon circumstance, situation and upbringing. In many countries outside of our affluent circumstances, people that are many years younger then me are many years more mature. EDIT: I just thought of some more arguments that could be made on these issues. Inbreeding is not always harmful to the child. Harm is also caused to children that grow up in poor families, because of lack of opportunity. Parents have the right to marry and bring up kids in those bad, impoverished situations, though. Heterosexual marriage also isn't limited by the health of the marriage partners either. They're allowed to have kids even if there's a high degree of risk that a disease will be passed on to the child. Even if these arguments didn't exist though, like I said earlier, a brother and a sister marrying could be simply forbidden from having children. Similar things happen in China with heterosexual couples in order to keep the population from growing too rapidly. R*an: Of course, R*an, you may wish to respond to Insidious Rex in a very different way then I have . I don't know. I'm hopeless. I just love to argue. But I think the different issues I brought up are not only concluded upon in the way that they are for genetic and social reasons, like Insidious Rex suggests. It's because marriage is defined in one particular way, in a Christian way. It has been that way since the founding of our country, and I've heard learned individuals state that our country was largely founded upon Christian morals. So I think those reasons tend to underly the meaning of marriage and the rules and boundaries for it, as much as the reasons Insidious Rex brings up.
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