Eragon - Page 7

ayra · 03-12-2007, 05:08 PM

Thorn is sworn in to Gablatorix.(sp) For life is what the book said. But is has been awhile since I read the book, so anything could be different.

The last sane person · 03-12-2007, 05:36 PM

I always thought that if the person you swore to was dead, it becomes null, unless you swore at their death.

me9996 · 03-12-2007, 07:42 PM

I agree (I also said something simalar to a prevous idea conserning Murtah)

If someone is sworn in for life would the oath not end at death?

I've been reading to much old stuff... It's effecting my phrazing...

Acalewia · 03-12-2007, 08:15 PM

I think Murtaugh mentioned that once Galby died he and thorn would be free because he knew Murtaugh's true name, thus Galby has complete control over him

The last sane person · 03-14-2007, 05:32 PM

True! We dont even know if Murtagh swore anything. Galbatorix just said his name and he had to jump like a trained poodle. Or, that's what this whole name-dominion thing is giving the impression of.

Acalewia · 03-14-2007, 07:16 PM

That's what I understand. Durza tried it with Eragon. And iirc Brom explained the true name thing to Eragon toward the begining of Eragon.

The last sane person · 03-15-2007, 02:12 PM

Arya did it too, back when Eragon was being tested by the twins. Just shouted the name of silver and it came.

And speaking of the twins, my god, from the moment you first read their names (or apperant lack there of) you knew they were spies.

me9996 · 03-15-2007, 07:04 PM

I didn't know they were spys right off, I just thought that they must of both had wierd child-hoods...

Acalewia · 03-17-2007, 09:27 PM

When they were first introduced as only the Twins, I had a feeling they were up to something. And during the Battle when they didn't respond to Eragon and when they weren't where they were supposed to be, I suspected they were spies. Of course, Durza popping up where they were supposed to be helped that theory.

me9996 · 03-19-2007, 01:03 PM

The thing that bugs me about Eragon I think the most is the world is so simple...

Given a piece of paper, a pencil, and an hour I could come up with an unamed* world that is on par with that of Eragon...

Complete with inhabitants

*The reson for no names is that I have great trubble comeing up with names if there isn't a joke about it.

Acalewia · 03-19-2007, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me9996

The thing that bugs me about Eragon I think the most is the world is so simple...

Given a piece of paper, a pencil, and an hour I could come up with an unamed* world that is on par with that of Eragon...

Complete with inhabitants

*The reson for no names is that I have great trubble comeing up with names if there isn't a joke about it.

I really think anyone could come up with an orginal fantasy world, mabe not in an hour, but i digress.

All you need is an imagination.

ayra · 03-20-2007, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acalewia

I really think anyone could come up with an orginal fantasy world, mabe not in an hour, but i digress.

All you need is an imagination.

Imagination and the time, paper, pencils/pens, and the ability to draw. If you are doing a world and inhabitants, like plants, people/aliens, and animals. You get the point.

me9996 · 03-20-2007, 07:57 PM

My point was that it uses so many overused devises, I could just put a bunch of ideas in a hat and pull out a fanticy world on par with his.
(Minus geography, but that's easy: Just make at least on side of the map on an ocean and put in at least one mounten range and desert)

Now rearangeing might be in order to accomadate the story but realy, the world there is not many notable landmarks or origenal ideas.

(Maybe he shoulda' made a computer game rather than a book, nobody minds this stuff in a computer game

)

The best thing I can say for Eragon is that the story is addicting, I realy want to know what will happen next.

(And if I'm right about

Eragon being related to Ayra in some way, and/or someone being brought back from the grave

)

Acalewia · 04-09-2007, 08:20 PM

What is it with you and

Eragon and Arya being related?

The last sane person · 04-09-2007, 08:30 PM

Eh, a computer game is more work actually. Even if the book is lacking in areas, it's fun to debate and try to figure out plot twists on the thread here. Hell, some of the stuff we come up with are more interesting plots then what is actually written.

me9996 · 04-09-2007, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acalewia

What is it with you and

Eragon and Arya being related?

Well,

Well, you know how many rip-offs we talk about in Eragon even starwars!
So I find it half-logical that Eragon and Arya being related would be likely...

And it's just silly!

Other than that I don't know...

me9996 · 04-17-2007, 12:35 PM

I just realised how similar Eragon is to star wars! (Not realy just realised but this is the first time I remebered to put it down on here.

Now this will be in spoilers due to heavy exploration of the plot.

First off the bat Eragon is a farmboy with dreams of something better, just like Luke Skywalker.

Next he becomes a hero very similar to a jedi. (An old, now gone, order now outlawed unless you serve the evil emperor(Another similarity!))

He is tought by a strange old man who turns out to belong to this old order and gets killed defending him (Just like Obi-wan)

And when the strange old man dies our hero gets sent to a stranger, older, non-human guy who is another member of the same order and he teaches the hero in the more advanced bits of the order.

Warning! 2X spoilers below!!!

He later finds out that his father who he dreamed of being someone great was in reality the evil emperors second in comand and greatest servant (Just like darth vader)

And Murtahs reveal is also similar to darth vader...

Which is why I speculate:
(In spoilers as I might be right)

The lady who he's pretty much fallen in love with turns out to be his sister (Just like princess Leia)

Murtah is redeemed in some way, killing the emperor and maybe getting killed in the prosess.

And Eragon becomes a full fledged dragonrider.

And the old dragonrider teacher dies (Which is hinted at anyway)

That's the thing about ripping off the plot of starwars, anybody who catches it can guess what you're doing next.

orithil · 04-22-2007, 02:46 AM

Never thought about it that way.....but your right its almost exactly like starwars.

me9996 · 04-22-2007, 04:48 PM

Also, the evil emperor is very old and prejudiced against non-humans.

ayra · 04-26-2007, 08:04 PM

And he brings in others to fight his wars.
ie: clones in one and uruks in the other.

03-12-2007, 05:08 PM	#121
ayra Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kalia. YOU HUMANS CAN'T GO THERE! Also land of boredom Posts: 230	Thorn is sworn in to Gablatorix.(sp) For life is what the book said. But is has been awhile since I read the book, so anything could be different. __________________ I am Queen Tallie Falcon. Do not mess with me. US KALIANS WILL RULE THOSE FROM THE REPUBLIC! Kalia rocks!

03-12-2007, 05:36 PM	#122
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	I always thought that if the person you swore to was dead, it becomes null, unless you swore at their death. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

03-12-2007, 08:15 PM	#124
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	I think Murtaugh mentioned that once Galby died he and thorn would be free because he knew Murtaugh's true name, thus Galby has complete control over him __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

03-14-2007, 05:32 PM	#125
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	True! We dont even know if Murtagh swore anything. Galbatorix just said his name and he had to jump like a trained poodle. Or, that's what this whole name-dominion thing is giving the impression of. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

03-14-2007, 07:16 PM	#126
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	That's what I understand. Durza tried it with Eragon. And iirc Brom explained the true name thing to Eragon toward the begining of Eragon. __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

03-15-2007, 02:12 PM	#127
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	Arya did it too, back when Eragon was being tested by the twins. Just shouted the name of silver and it came. And speaking of the twins, my god, from the moment you first read their names (or apperant lack there of) you knew they were spies. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

03-17-2007, 09:27 PM	#129
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	When they were first introduced as only the Twins, I had a feeling they were up to something. And during the Battle when they didn't respond to Eragon and when they weren't where they were supposed to be, I suspected they were spies. Of course, Durza popping up where they were supposed to be helped that theory. __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

04-09-2007, 08:30 PM	#135
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	Eh, a computer game is more work actually. Even if the book is lacking in areas, it's fun to debate and try to figure out plot twists on the thread here. Hell, some of the stuff we come up with are more interesting plots then what is actually written. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

04-22-2007, 02:46 AM	#138
orithil Captain Jack Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: High Charity Posts: 598	Never thought about it that way.....but your right its almost exactly like starwars. __________________ Captain Jack Sparrow: When you marooned me on that god forsaken spit of land, you forgot one very important thing, mate: I’m Captain Jack Sparrow. Cortana: So have you got a plan to get out? Master Chief: I was gonna shoot my way out. Mix things up a little.

04-26-2007, 08:04 PM	#140
ayra Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kalia. YOU HUMANS CAN'T GO THERE! Also land of boredom Posts: 230	And he brings in others to fight his wars. ie: clones in one and uruks in the other. __________________ I am Queen Tallie Falcon. Do not mess with me. US KALIANS WILL RULE THOSE FROM THE REPUBLIC! Kalia rocks!

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