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HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!I found it!! I know when Finrod was born: 1300!!! YES!!!!! I am QUEEN!! I rock!!! He was 195 yrs old when the Noldor took leave of Aman. *puffs out chest in pride* Found it in *drum roll* Morgoth's Ring (Dang I'm good) *pats self on back*.
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Only 195 years old. He was very young then. So, how old was he when he died?
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I... can't *snif* talk about it... anymore... so............. sad. |
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But also in Morgoth's Ring Tolkien says that 1 Year of the Trees was equal to 9.582 Sun Years. So he was 1,868 when he left Aman and 2,381 when he died.
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But the years start over... so, I just did the math... born 1300 until Fingolfin et al cross Helkaraxe in 1500 = 200 yrs. "the ages of the Stars were ended, and the time of the Sun and Moon was begun" starts with year 1 through Finrod's death *snif* in 465 in Tol-in-Gaurhoth. 200 + 465 = 665 years. By the way, where did you get the info on Legolas? I always thought that Legolas was an afterthought of JRRT and didn't have much of a history at all (other than his father Thranduil and grandsire Oropher). |
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Well, there is no actual factual number on Legolas' age. I think we have all assumed that he was a rather young elf when he joined the Fellowship. I think Michael Martinez has also written some essays and thing regarding all that is known of Legolas at Suite 101. All of the Legolas experts I have talked to hear and at SF-Fandom put Legolas to be about a thousand or a bit older. That would be young for an elf.
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Just reworked the math for s & g's...
born 1300...in Aman, 1 yr in the light of the trees = 9.852 yrs in sun. journey to Arda 1496 (assuming now that time is normal, since they leave Aman)... 1496 - 1300 = 196 yrs x 9.852 = 1930.992 yrs ... using sig figs... that's 1931 years. age of stars ends 1500 add 4 years to that... 1935... then 465 years until ... well.. you know... 1935 + 465 = 2400 yrs old. So, now back to the tart. I would assume that she was about the same age, because the alternative is unthinkable. As for the "not permitted" stance... Luthien was "not permitted" to take off after Beren and she did so against her father's ban. If she truely loved him... she would have gone with him. Period. |
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So 2,400 years old. What would he be equal to in human age, like to a 30 or 40 year old man?
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I don't think that age comparisons can really be made like that. Especially when they marry as early as 50 yrs. Besides, Elves are meant to live as long as Arda endures... much longer than 5000 years. |
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