The Order of the Phoenix SPOILER Review Thread - Page 7

Arathorn · 07-03-2003, 11:14 PM

Nevertheless, it makes for a great conversation piece, IMO.

I think I'll get another copy of the US (Scholastic) edition and sell it as a collectible in a few yrs time. It'll probably fetch a niftier price if you talk to the right people.

Tanoliel · 07-04-2003, 11:26 PM

Arathorn! Long time no see bouncing boot.

What'd you think of Book 5?

Btw, I finished Jane Eyre (go me!) and came across the word "ejaculated" used in that sense (in place of "said" or "yelled") at least four more times. For ladies, too.

Arathorn · 07-05-2003, 12:13 AM

<hem hem>

I enjoyed Book 5 for all the surprises it sprang. But I think I enjoyed those revelations a lot more than the main plot. As with Sheeana, I still enjoyed book 3 the best and it's sort of a toss-up between books 4 and 5 for the number 2 slot.

I like/hate the new characters. Well, I liked all the new characters, good and bad, but there's nothing to hate more than that <hem hem> toad.

My favorite has now been replaced. Sirius is now my 2nd favorite character to (don't laugh too hard) Luna! She's one of the most cumfy of all the people there. She must have been exposed to some nirvana state as everything's just fine and dandy with her.

And Nymphadora's loads of fun too, heheh.

I do hope they keep developing Neville's character. He's starting to come out of his shell. Perhaps one of his parents gets back to normal?

Alassë Elensar · 07-05-2003, 02:21 AM

I finished the book long ago, but have not been on in awhile. I like the book overall. Percey was an arse. Fred, George, and Peeves were incredible. The sixth book isn't going to be the same without the twins. Umbridge was terrifically evil. And Dumbledore... just magnificent.
Luna was interesting and I'm really liking the way that Neville's character is developing.
I read a spoiler while I was only partway through the book, so... I spent the last half of it dreading the death of... yeah. That. Sleep is good.

jerseydevil · 07-05-2003, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elf Girl
I live in America. I guess from reading British novels I have learned to not see the sexual content in everything. It's a skill.

It's not the fact that it's making "fuss" over it - it's the fact that in AMERICA we do not use the word in the context in which it has been used. I assumed it was that way in the British editions. If it is not then it makes it even more strange. Sorry - but the only time ejaculated is used in the US is in the sexual manner. It's not reading sex into - it's just the way it is used in the US 99.99999999% of the time. I'm sure you can find the small percentage of times when it is used in it's other term - but I have never come across it in a book, nor in speech.

***HOBBIT*** · 07-05-2003, 03:01 AM

For all of you that are complaining that we won't see as much Fred and George because they left - are you forgetting that it was their 7th year? They just wanted to leave with a bang because of Umbridge and they were sick of school - they only left a month or two early. (im pretty sure that it was, if I am wrong just correct me

)

They were going to finish their schooling that year ANYWAY and they wouldn't be back at Hogwarts the next year, now would they?

And I, like JD, assumed that ejaculated must have been part of the original British text. It is never used here in that context - why changed it from 'exclaimed,' which is used all the time.

Arathorn · 07-05-2003, 10:43 AM

Me thinks Fred and George ought to be back but probably not in Hogwarts itself. They should open a franchise next to the joke shop in Hogsmead(sp?). They know the market and have a captured one when the students go out.

Cirdan · 07-05-2003, 12:04 PM

The joke shop will make a good venue for further story lines. I'm sure F&G's skills will come in handy in the last two installments.

***HOBBIT*** · 07-05-2003, 03:51 PM

If they get sucessful enough, they can always buy the jokeshop in Hogsmeade.

Tanoliel · 07-05-2003, 08:26 PM

I sincerely doubt that Gred and Forge will not be around. I think them having a shop in Hogsmeade would be awesome.
Plus I can just see them forcing a canary cream down Voldemort's throat..."I am the Lord of Darkness! I am invinci--TWEET!"

Arathorn: YAY! Another Luna lover! I adore that child. She makes me very happy.

Cirdan · 07-05-2003, 08:37 PM

Luna is great! Definitely a personality type that was too long in coming. I think she would be a good romantic interest for Neville. I think the HP+ LL allusion at the end of the book is a diversion.

Tanoliel · 07-05-2003, 09:16 PM

Neville and Luna would be sweet...but it's really hard for me to see Luna "with" anyone. She seems a very single soul, in that sense anyway.
HP and LL would be ridiculous. I hope that doesn't happen...

tano

Cirdan · 07-05-2003, 09:48 PM

It may be she is the other half of the Neville equation like Ron and Hermione are paired as the lead supporting cast. They do have the crazy family element in common, and Neville is a loner for the most part, too. I don't think it would happen becuase it would be a distraction from Harry and... Hermione?

Arathorn · 07-05-2003, 10:16 PM

What?? No more Hermy and Grawpy??

Luna's great to be a kid sister, for me. She can take care of her emotional self. Perhaps being both the loner types, she and Neville can help each other learn to interact more with other people.

Varda Oiolosseo · 07-11-2003, 04:22 PM

I love Fred and George's swamp on the corridor and how Pro Flitwick left a corner in memory of them! lol!

Elf Girl · 07-12-2003, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arathorn
Me thinks Fred and George ought to be back but probably not in Hogwarts itself. They should open a franchise next to the joke shop in Hogsmead(sp?). They know the market and have a captured one when the students go out.

But they have premises in Diagon Alley...

My favorite character list would be as follows:

1) McGonagall
2) Umbridge
3) Luna

Arathorn · 07-12-2003, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elf Girl
But they have premises in Diagon Alley...

My favorite character list would be as follows:

1) McGonagall
2) Umbridge
3) Luna

They don't have to give the Diagon Ally premises. They can just expand. Hogsmmmeade (sp?) looks like a very good spot to do research and experiment on students, heheh.

Elf Girl · 07-13-2003, 09:07 AM

But even so, they're not made of gold. They've already spent 'a good bit' of the Triwizard money, and premises in Hogsmeade must be as expensive if not more so then Diagon Alley. They'll have to wait a few years, until they start making a profit.

And why would they open a shop right next to Zonko's? Thats heavy competition. I would put mine waaaaay over on the other side of town.

Arathorn · 07-13-2003, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elf Girl
But even so, they're not made of gold. They've already spent 'a good bit' of the Triwizard money, and premises in Hogsmeade must be as expensive if not more so then Diagon Alley. They'll have to wait a few years, until they start making a profit.

And why would they open a shop right next to Zonko's? Thats heavy competition. I would put mine waaaaay over on the other side of town.

Why shouldn't they open a shop next to Zonko's in Hogsmeade? Hogsmeade has less people going there than Diagon Ally so it might even be cheaper. They're biggest clients are from the school and they would be the "alternative" jokeshop to Zonko's since they've been inventing their own stuff.

And besides, it's Fred and George.

Elf Girl · 07-13-2003, 10:24 AM

Well, we'll see. (In another 3 years, most likely! A pox on JKR!)

I just realized, if it takes her another 3 years, I will be the same age as Harry when the next one comes out.

07-03-2003, 11:14 PM	#121
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	Nevertheless, it makes for a great conversation piece, IMO. I think I'll get another copy of the US (Scholastic) edition and sell it as a collectible in a few yrs time. It'll probably fetch a niftier price if you talk to the right people. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

07-04-2003, 11:26 PM	#122
Tanoliel Eccentric Chocolate Crow Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Emerald City--Seattle, WA Posts: 1,861	Arathorn! Long time no see bouncing boot. What'd you think of Book 5? Btw, I finished Jane Eyre (go me!) and came across the word "ejaculated" used in that sense (in place of "said" or "yelled") at least four more times. For ladies, too. __________________ Wisdom for Short Attention Spans...Ozy and Millie. It rocks. Food Of The Gods: 3,7-dihydro-3,7-dimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione Feed Me.... Another Online Dwelling Place... "All right, I confess. It is my intention to comandeer a ship, pick up a crew in Tortuga, to rape, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out." -Captain Jack Sparrow "The trouble with unknown enemies is that they are so difficult to identify." -Amelia Peabody Emerson "Most people obey the orders of someone who is pointing a gun at their head." -A.P. Emerson

07-05-2003, 12:13 AM	#123
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	Hi Tano! <hem hem> I enjoyed Book 5 for all the surprises it sprang. But I think I enjoyed those revelations a lot more than the main plot. As with Sheeana, I still enjoyed book 3 the best and it's sort of a toss-up between books 4 and 5 for the number 2 slot. I like/hate the new characters. Well, I liked all the new characters, good and bad, but there's nothing to hate more than that <hem hem> toad. My favorite has now been replaced. Sirius is now my 2nd favorite character to (don't laugh too hard) Luna! She's one of the most cumfy of all the people there. She must have been exposed to some nirvana state as everything's just fine and dandy with her. And Nymphadora's loads of fun too, heheh. I do hope they keep developing Neville's character. He's starting to come out of his shell. Perhaps one of his parents gets back to normal? __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures... Last edited by Arathorn : 07-05-2003 at 12:15 AM.

07-05-2003, 02:21 AM	#124
Alassë Elensar Sapling Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Depths of my Eyelash Posts: 6	I finished the book long ago, but have not been on in awhile. I like the book overall. Percey was an arse. Fred, George, and Peeves were incredible. The sixth book isn't going to be the same without the twins. Umbridge was terrifically evil. And Dumbledore... just magnificent. Luna was interesting and I'm really liking the way that Neville's character is developing. I read a spoiler while I was only partway through the book, so... I spent the last half of it dreading the death of... yeah. That. Sleep is good. __________________ I am: WanderLust;PixieDust&ATraveler I write: Wars&Swords&StreetLampSonatas To be seen is to lie yourself bare before the world.

07-05-2003, 03:01 AM	#126
*HOBBIT* Saviour of Entmoot Admiral Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: NC/NJ (no longer Same place as bmilder.) Posts: 61,986	For all of you that are complaining that we won't see as much Fred and George because they left - are you forgetting that it was their 7th year? They just wanted to leave with a bang because of Umbridge and they were sick of school - they only left a month or two early. (im pretty sure that it was, if I am wrong just correct me ) They were going to finish their schooling that year ANYWAY and they wouldn't be back at Hogwarts the next year, now would they? And I, like JD, assumed that ejaculated must have been part of the original British text. It is never used here in that context - why changed it from 'exclaimed,' which is used all the time. __________________ President Emeritus (2000-2004) Private message (or email) me if you need any assistance. I am here to help! "I'm up to here with cool, ok? I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis" - Zaphod Beeblebrox Latest Blog Post: Just Quit Facebook? No One Cares!

07-05-2003, 10:43 AM	#127
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	Me thinks Fred and George ought to be back but probably not in Hogwarts itself. They should open a franchise next to the joke shop in Hogsmead(sp?). They know the market and have a captured one when the students go out. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

07-05-2003, 12:04 PM	#128
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	The joke shop will make a good venue for further story lines. I'm sure F&G's skills will come in handy in the last two installments. __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

07-05-2003, 03:51 PM	#129
*HOBBIT* Saviour of Entmoot Admiral Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: NC/NJ (no longer Same place as bmilder.) Posts: 61,986	If they get sucessful enough, they can always buy the jokeshop in Hogsmeade. __________________ President Emeritus (2000-2004) Private message (or email) me if you need any assistance. I am here to help! "I'm up to here with cool, ok? I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis" - Zaphod Beeblebrox Latest Blog Post: Just Quit Facebook? No One Cares!

07-05-2003, 08:26 PM	#130
Tanoliel Eccentric Chocolate Crow Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Emerald City--Seattle, WA Posts: 1,861	I sincerely doubt that Gred and Forge will not be around. I think them having a shop in Hogsmeade would be awesome. Plus I can just see them forcing a canary cream down Voldemort's throat..."I am the Lord of Darkness! I am invinci--TWEET!" Arathorn: YAY! Another Luna lover! I adore that child. She makes me very happy. __________________ Wisdom for Short Attention Spans...Ozy and Millie. It rocks. Food Of The Gods: 3,7-dihydro-3,7-dimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione Feed Me.... Another Online Dwelling Place... "All right, I confess. It is my intention to comandeer a ship, pick up a crew in Tortuga, to rape, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out." -Captain Jack Sparrow "The trouble with unknown enemies is that they are so difficult to identify." -Amelia Peabody Emerson "Most people obey the orders of someone who is pointing a gun at their head." -A.P. Emerson

07-05-2003, 08:37 PM	#131
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	Luna is great! Definitely a personality type that was too long in coming. I think she would be a good romantic interest for Neville. I think the HP+ LL allusion at the end of the book is a diversion. __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

07-05-2003, 09:16 PM	#132
Tanoliel Eccentric Chocolate Crow Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Emerald City--Seattle, WA Posts: 1,861	Neville and Luna would be sweet...but it's really hard for me to see Luna "with" anyone. She seems a very single soul, in that sense anyway. HP and LL would be ridiculous. I hope that doesn't happen... tano __________________ Wisdom for Short Attention Spans...Ozy and Millie. It rocks. Food Of The Gods: 3,7-dihydro-3,7-dimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione Feed Me.... Another Online Dwelling Place... "All right, I confess. It is my intention to comandeer a ship, pick up a crew in Tortuga, to rape, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out." -Captain Jack Sparrow "The trouble with unknown enemies is that they are so difficult to identify." -Amelia Peabody Emerson "Most people obey the orders of someone who is pointing a gun at their head." -A.P. Emerson

07-05-2003, 09:48 PM	#133
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	It may be she is the other half of the Neville equation like Ron and Hermione are paired as the lead supporting cast. They do have the crazy family element in common, and Neville is a loner for the most part, too. I don't think it would happen becuase it would be a distraction from Harry and... Hermione? __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

07-05-2003, 10:16 PM	#134
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	What?? No more Hermy and Grawpy?? Luna's great to be a kid sister, for me. She can take care of her emotional self. Perhaps being both the loner types, she and Neville can help each other learn to interact more with other people. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

07-11-2003, 04:22 PM	#135
Varda Oiolosseo Tea Bag Queen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 973	I love Fred and George's swamp on the corridor and how Pro Flitwick left a corner in memory of them! lol!

07-13-2003, 09:07 AM	#138
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	But even so, they're not made of gold. They've already spent 'a good bit' of the Triwizard money, and premises in Hogsmeade must be as expensive if not more so then Diagon Alley. They'll have to wait a few years, until they start making a profit. And why would they open a shop right next to Zonko's? Thats heavy competition. I would put mine waaaaay over on the other side of town. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

07-13-2003, 10:24 AM	#140
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	Well, we'll see. (In another 3 years, most likely! A pox on JKR!) I just realized, if it takes her another 3 years, I will be the same age as Harry when the next one comes out. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

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