11-28-2008, 11:01 PM | #121 |
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Extra long post by me and Varna, about half from each of us. Enjoy!
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11-29-2008, 05:56 AM | #122 |
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Nice. Did Elrond just make the choice for Glorfindel? Sneaky fellow!
I have to say I like the idea of a more fragile Glorfindel with doubts and things to deal with. It'll be interesting to see if this trip helps him resolve them, or at least partially.
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The more fragile Glorfindel is very different from the legend hero Rameldir has always heard about. I suppose the first meeting between them a hundred years ago would have been quite something. Rameldir would be quite awestruck and feel like a ten year old boy again. Perhaps Willow and I ought to play it between us in PMs and work it in as a flashback at some point if it makes good reading.
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I suppose it will come up again when the Mithlond characters reach Rivendell. Then Glorfindel will likely find him faced again with more characters that will look up to him since, as Gondolin survivors, they owe him their lives as well. I wonder how all the characters will react to meeting a living legend.
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Very true - and most of them were only teen-agers when he was killed, right?
They would have the same connection to him as Rameldir, of only having known about him as one of the adults, and then hearing about him as a legend. I believe it would be different if he met with one of his fellow adults from Gondolin. But perhaps none of those are still around in Middle-earth. Glor is left with all the young fans
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11-29-2008, 05:35 PM | #126 |
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It's possible that Pengolod and Galdor are still around at this point. But yeah, he is pretty much stuck with all the young fans who I am assuming will at some point pester him for stories...
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Nice post, guys! The second-to-last paragraph was esp. good, with the idea of half-familiar faces (isn't that frustrating?! I have that problem! I have trouble identifying faces out of their normal context. How frustrating that must be for Glor!!) and a bit of guilt over getting out of some of the suffering - very interesting concepts to explore! And the idea of him blushing because he didn't quite have full control over his body yet ... *imagines him accidentally burping at a banquet * "whoops! Sorry, that one escaped me - don't quite have full control yet ... "
There are at least two left - Tyaron and Alagos were full-grown men and honkin' bad kick-butt warriors at the time of the FoG (yes, I know that "everyone" makes their people really good, but hey, you got Glor ). I haven't developed all the details, but I've always imagined them as nobles attached to the king's house before Tuor's arrival, then transferred to Tuor's house because of their blood and skills. I'll work out all the details as the need arises, but they are men and fighters that even Glorfy would know and respect. In fact, I've also pictured them fighting at the Nirnaeth, and seeing Hurin and Huor's last stand before they retreated with Turgon, so they are very old indeed! Do you want Glor involved with that battle, BTW?
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ps- has anyone else ever had that goofy idea about the ocean taking a break when no one was looking? We've done lots of beach camping, and darn if every time I wake up, the waves are still at it! I've always imagined that they keep a watch out, and if all the campers are asleep, they take a little break ...
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by RÃan : 12-01-2008 at 04:50 PM. |
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OK, got my on-the-road post up and edited. Earniel, anything for your guys? Let me know In fact, just edit it in, in case I can't get to it.
My foot surgery is on Thursday, so this will be the last post for a while - sorry, I'm going to have to probably break my own 2-week rule, as it is rather major surgery But I should be able to read your posts after a bit, and I'll be composing in my head (under the influence of pain-killers! ) Namárië!
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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Your foot surgery coincides with my finals week. No worries if you can't post for a bit. Just rest and feel better.
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Are you imagining your guys as born before or after the move from Nevrast to Gondolin?
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I had got the impression of after given how attached to the memory of it they are... but they're your characters!
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Good luck with the foot surgery, I hope you're back on your feet again soon! (Got to see the skin specialist on Thursday too, but I hope that in my case, we're past the cutting stage now! ) You can keep Fingon, it's Tuor we were squabbling about, remember?
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(I bet they had pack-horses for THAT trip ...)
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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As for the lembas, giving Lembas to travellers was the sole right of the Queen of the region, if I'm not mistaken. In the Silmarillion and assorted tales, I believe only Melian is seen handing out Lembas, and receiving it is a high honour. Galadriel wasn't a queen perse, but her kinship to several kings and being the Lady of Lothlorien, may have elevated her to a similar rank. But no one in Mithlond would be allowed to hand out Lembas, if they even knew the recipe. I highly doubt even Arwen knew it or was qualified to make and distribute it. I fear our Elves will have to do with ordinary cram. (Although I daresay the ordinary Elven variety would still be better than the cram that Gimli thought of when the Fellowship left Lothlorien.)
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Or maybe Fingon took a pack-horse with him when he went to get Maedhros and it just wasn't mentioned! (but of course he was only one person, and setting out on a desperate journey ... but the sensible fellow DID take his harp! Can you imagine the packing? "OK, heading out for a desperate attempt and almost certain death - gotta travel light and only take the bare essentials - let's see: sword, dagger, cloak, food - OK, all set! *gasp* Oh wait, I almost forgot my harp!!! " ) Anyway, they're heading to Rivendell, it's spring - I think we could support the idea of no pack-horse and them living light as far as food, etc. on the journey. Let's toss the idea around and see what the consensus is. Quote:
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So, btw - was my post too sentimental/angsty/mawkish? I stumbled across that Earendil quote from the Old English poems, and that gave me the idea for the post.
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Given the amount of ceremony when they left, the journey might have warranted some lembas.
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But personally I think Lembas is over-rated, you see it everywhere, in almost every fan fic or RPG, at least one character has Lembas just like that. I'd like to be a little more original. Unless of course the majority overrules me, I'm perfectly fine with that.
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"Now Gil-Galad, dear, don't forget your cloak - it's cold outside! And I packed some lembas for you in your lunchbox!"
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