Lore Masters' Quote Game - Part 1 - Page 7

***Earniel*** · 05-10-2008, 07:30 AM

'King' and 'stand' is correct. I'll grant you the 'nought' although in my copy it's 'naught' but I suppose the meaning's the same. 'Bond' is also correct.

***Varnafindë*** · 05-12-2008, 04:38 PM

"Before the king/be/stand/./But/_n_w/,/
if/now/he/seems/for/naught/./His will/
be/done/to/_e_r/,/And to/f_r_i_l/./
Be/gone/for/ever/, ere the day/
shall/fall/into/the/_e_/!/Your way/
shall/never/need/for/h_t_e_/more/,
nor any son of Fëanor;
if/_o_e/do/_o_e/shall/there be /bond/
between your house and Nargothrond!"

Some of the words may be right - but if they all are, then it won't make sense!

***Earniel*** · 05-12-2008, 04:45 PM

I have picked a difficult quote, it seems. Here's what's correct so far.

"Before the king/_e/stand/./But/_n_w/,/
_f/_o_/he/s_e_s/for naught. His will/
_e/_o_e/to/_e_r/,/And to/f_r_i_l/./
Be gone for ever, ere the day
shall fall into the/_e_/!/Your way
shall never/_e_d/_o_/h_t_e_/more/,
nor any son of Fëanor;
_f/_o_e/_o/_o_e/shall there be bond
between your house and Nargothrond!"

***Varnafindë*** · 05-12-2008, 04:57 PM

His will/
we/come/to/_e_r/,/

Curufin had 'of' in two places, and since they were not acknowlegded, I changed them to 'if'.
That seems not to be right either - are you sure that both are wrong?

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 05-12-2008, 09:17 PM

Wild guesses. I don't know this one.

Before the king/we/stand/./But/anew/,/
of/you/he/seeks/for naught. His will/
be/done/to/fear/,/And to/f_r_i_l/./
Be gone for ever, ere the day
shall fall into the/wet/!/Your way
shall never/bend/for/hither/more/,
nor any son of Fëanor;
Of/hope/to/hope/shall there be bond
between your house and Nargothrond!"

***Earniel*** · 05-13-2008, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varnafindë

Curufin had 'of' in two places, and since they were not acknowlegded, I changed them to 'if'.
That seems not to be right either - are you sure that both are wrong?

No, 'of' is correct. I missed them in Curufin's reply, darn.

Before the king/_e/stand. But/_n_w/,
of you he seeks for naught. His will/
_e/come to/_e_r/, And to/f_r_i_l/./
Be gone for ever, ere the day
shall fall into the/_e_/! Your way
shall never/_e_d/_o_/hither more ,
nor any son of Fëanor;
Of _o_e/_o/_o_e/shall there be bond
between your house and Nargothrond!"

As for some of the words that are left open and where people keep guessing 'we', think archaic.

***Varnafindë*** · 05-13-2008, 06:39 AM

Before the king/ye/stand

ye/come to/

?

***Earniel*** · 05-13-2008, 06:40 AM

Correct.

***Valandil*** · 05-13-2008, 06:45 AM

"Before the king ye stand. But enow,
of you he seeks for naught. His will
ye come to hear, And to forfill(?).
Be gone for ever, ere the day
shall fall into the sea(?)! Your way
shall never lead you hither more,
nor any son of Fëanor;
Of none so more shall there be bond
between your house and Nargothrond!"

Finrod Felagund?

***Earniel*** · 05-13-2008, 07:04 AM

We're getting closer...

Only a few words left. Speaker is not Finrod.

"Before the king ye stand. But _n_w,
of you he seeks for naught. His will
ye come to hear, And to forfill.
Be gone for ever, ere the day
shall fall into the sea! Your way
shall never lead you hither more,
nor any son of Fëanor;
Of _o_e /_o more shall there be bond
between your house and Nargothrond!"

Curufin · 05-13-2008, 07:25 AM

Is it Orodreth?

And I think he's talking to me.

"no" more ?

***Valandil*** · 05-13-2008, 07:46 AM

'of love no more...'?

***Earniel*** · 05-13-2008, 08:23 AM

Words are correct, only one left open.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curufin

Is it Orodreth?

And I think he's talking to me.

Yup, and that's why I picked it.

Curufin · 05-13-2008, 09:06 AM

So 'anew', 'know' and 'enow' have been tried.

'Anow,' maybe?

***Earniel*** · 05-13-2008, 12:19 PM

Wait, what, 'know' has been tried? That's the right one. Argh, what's wrong with me? I never was this sloppy with quotes before!

That means Val gets the next quote while I crawl in a corner and hang my head in shame.

***Varnafindë*** · 05-13-2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eärniel

Wait, what, 'know' has been tried? That's the right one. Argh, what's wrong with me? I never was this sloppy with quotes before!

In the same post as where Curufin had the two 'of's - is there also a danger with posts at the bottom of a page, where noone sees them again?

***Valandil*** · 05-13-2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eärniel

:
:
That means Val gets the next quote ...

But nobody said 'the work'... and I have NO IDEA!

(or is that provision still in effect?)

***Varnafindë*** · 05-14-2008, 03:56 AM

What provision?

***Earniel*** · 05-14-2008, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curufin in the first post

Oh, and one more step - before we can move to the next quote, someone needs to tell us which text the quote comes from OR what it's talking about. (Not both.)

Curufin guess earlier that the speaker was Orodreth to Curufin, the scene is determined enough for me by that.

But if you desperately want to guess the text as well, it can't be that hard. Come on, in how many places does Tolkien have people talking in rhyme?

Curufin · 05-14-2008, 06:33 AM

*thinks hard*

Me! Me!

It's in the Lay of Leithian.

05-10-2008, 07:30 AM	#121
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	'King' and 'stand' is correct. I'll grant you the 'nought' although in my copy it's 'naught' but I suppose the meaning's the same. 'Bond' is also correct. __________________ We are not things.

05-12-2008, 04:38 PM	#122
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	"Before the king/be/stand/./But/_n_w/,/ if/now/he/seems/for/naught/./His will/ be/done/to/_e_r/,/And to/f_r_i_l/./ Be/gone/for/ever/, ere the day/ shall/fall/into/the/_e_/!/Your way/ shall/never/need/for/h_t_e_/more/, nor any son of Fëanor; if/_o_e/do/_o_e/shall/there be /bond/ between your house and Nargothrond!" Some of the words may be right - but if they all are, then it won't make sense! __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

05-12-2008, 04:45 PM	#123
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	I have picked a difficult quote, it seems. Here's what's correct so far. "Before the king/_e/stand/./But/_n_w/,/ _f/_o_/he/s_e_s/for naught. His will/ _e/_o_e/to/_e_r/,/And to/f_r_i_l/./ Be gone for ever, ere the day shall fall into the/_e_/!/Your way shall never/_e_d/_o_/h_t_e_/more/, nor any son of Fëanor; _f/_o_e/_o/_o_e/shall there be bond between your house and Nargothrond!" __________________ We are not things.

05-12-2008, 04:57 PM	#124
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	His will/ we/come/to/_e_r/,/ Curufin had 'of' in two places, and since they were not acknowlegded, I changed them to 'if'. That seems not to be right either - are you sure that both are wrong? __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

05-12-2008, 09:17 PM	#125
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	Wild guesses. I don't know this one. Before the king/we/stand/./But/anew/,/ of/you/he/seeks/for naught. His will/ be/done/to/fear/,/And to/f_r_i_l/./ Be gone for ever, ere the day shall fall into the/wet/!/Your way shall never/bend/for/hither/more/, nor any son of Fëanor; Of/hope/to/hope/shall there be bond between your house and Nargothrond!" __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

05-13-2008, 06:39 AM	#127
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	Before the king/ye/stand ye/come to/ ? __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

05-13-2008, 06:40 AM	#128
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Correct. __________________ We are not things.

05-13-2008, 06:45 AM	#129
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	"Before the king ye stand. But enow, of you he seeks for naught. His will ye come to hear, And to forfill(?). Be gone for ever, ere the day shall fall into the sea(?)! Your way shall never lead you hither more, nor any son of Fëanor; Of none so more shall there be bond between your house and Nargothrond!" Finrod Felagund? __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

05-13-2008, 07:04 AM	#130
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	We're getting closer... Only a few words left. Speaker is not Finrod. "Before the king ye stand. But _n_w, of you he seeks for naught. His will ye come to hear, And to forfill. Be gone for ever, ere the day shall fall into the sea! Your way shall never lead you hither more, nor any son of Fëanor; Of _o_e /_o more shall there be bond between your house and Nargothrond!" __________________ We are not things.

05-13-2008, 07:25 AM	#131
Curufin The Ñoldóran Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,050	Is it Orodreth? And I think he's talking to me. "no" more ? __________________ Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian

05-13-2008, 07:46 AM	#132
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	'of love no more...'? __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

05-13-2008, 09:06 AM	#134
Curufin The Ñoldóran Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,050	So 'anew', 'know' and 'enow' have been tried. 'Anow,' maybe? __________________ Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian

05-13-2008, 12:19 PM	#135
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Wait, what, 'know' has been tried? That's the right one. Argh, what's wrong with me? I never was this sloppy with quotes before! That means Val gets the next quote while I crawl in a corner and hang my head in shame. __________________ We are not things.

05-14-2008, 03:56 AM	#138
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	What provision? __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

05-14-2008, 06:33 AM	#140
Curufin The Ñoldóran Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,050	thinks hard Me! Me! It's in the Lay of Leithian. __________________ Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian

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