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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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I don't have time to analyze every part of every worldview, whether officially written down or not, and neither do you. Bummer, eh?! I work from actual observation of the world around me, just as you do, and analyze various worldviews I come across, just like you do. The only difference is that we have reached different conclusions. (and yes, you HAVE reached a conclusion - that's why you refer to yourself as an agnostic. And I, just like you, am open to changing my conclusions if I see data that warrants it. At this point, however, I have seen SO much data to support my conclusion that it would take an awful lot to make me change it.) Quote:
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What I'm saying is that you are an agnostic, and given that belief, you come up with your moral decisions. You work the same way that I do. Quote:
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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You've said (and just said again) that if I don't think gays should marry then I don't have to be gay. Let's apply that same standard to YOU and partial birth abortion. Since you think it's wrong, then why don't you just not encourage women to not do it, but don't try to force your morals onto others! If other people don't think it's wrong, then I certainly hope you wouldn't try to force your morals on them, just like you tell me to not force my ideas on gay marriage on others. Same standards here, please. Quote:
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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05-11-2005, 06:19 PM | #124 |
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so it begins....
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05-11-2005, 11:07 PM | #125 |
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LCoU,
Like the liberty, freedom and equality of Yugoslavia, East Germany, the sovietized communnist Balkan states and USSR prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall and in the interval from 1917 to then? the noble truth of Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Che?
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05-12-2005, 03:21 AM | #126 |
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marx, lenin and che maybe, i fail to see how you can even think to place stalin and mao on a par with those revolutionary geniae
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05-12-2005, 06:02 PM | #127 |
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Easily, LCoU, because Stalin and Mao are the two most "successful" implementers of the theories of Marx and Lenin. Che was a "wannabe like Stalin or Mao," and I do not mean disrespect in that statement.
Nasty how the practitioners of a "pure" doctrine end up screwing it up so badly, isn't it? Reminds me of the complaints against Christians for not living up to their ideals. But human nature and all that!
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05-12-2005, 06:33 PM | #128 |
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I was always told that Eden was in Scotland.
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05-13-2005, 09:10 PM | #132 |
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IRex, you entirely missed my point, probably because I didn't express it well enough, but I prob. can't get to it until next week.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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I find it distinctly odd that Cain only had brothers, but managed to find a wife. He certainly wouldn't have married his mother, would he?
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05-14-2005, 11:55 PM | #134 |
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NC,
Are you a closet literalist at heart? Or merely trying to make a myth into a scientific treatise? Or something else?
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that is discusting.
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05-15-2005, 07:12 PM | #138 |
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15th may was the birthday of the buddha, day of meditation for me
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05-16-2005, 03:36 PM | #139 | |
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I think gay marriage is harmful to society and to the participants. You don't accept my definition of wrong/harmful in this case, and you tell me that I shouldn't vote against it because I don't have to choose to do it myself. I"m pointing out that you should apply that SAME standard to yourself in the case of partial birth abortion. YOU think it's wrong - well, others obviously don't, because they're not being dragged into abortion clinics screaming "don't kill my baby!" - so I would hope that YOU wouldn't push YOUR definition of wrong on these people that think partial birth abortion is NOT wrong. Would you? If it came to a vote, would you vote against partial birth abortion? If so, why? If not, why not? Quote:
I agree that things intertwine to touch a greater truth about who we are and what's important - and IMO, that greater truth is expressed in the Christian doctrine. It seems like the only thing that your "elders" are wise about is being "transcendant" - but if that has no relation with knowing truth, then what are they wise ABOUT? No offense, but it seems like they're just wise about getting high
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 05-23-2005 at 07:11 PM. |
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