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05-14-2003, 11:29 PM | #123 |
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I found another one from 2001!
I do agree with the death sentence to a certain point. If something severe has happened, then I do believe they should get a death sentence, but if it is not very severe, then I disagree.
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05-17-2003, 10:32 AM | #124 |
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I'm unsure about the death penalty. But I know it costs several million of people's money to kill one person. I think it could be from legal fees? It costs less to have someone in prison for many years.
But I don't really know how I feel about the punishment systems existing today. They are certainly quite flawed. A problem is just retribution (which we all have diff. opinions on) vs. infringement of basic human rights. And you could argue- that person doesn't deserve those rights because he took others away. But there's always arguments against these so I won't get into it.
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05-25-2003, 09:46 PM | #125 | |
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I'm not informed enough to know what the proper time is for the death penalty to be used in all cases. What I'm saying is that age should be taken into consideration as you consider the penalty. What the penalty is after you've taken that into consideration is not what I'm saying. It could well be death. |
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05-25-2003, 09:50 PM | #126 |
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i found an article about the firing squad in Utah. and it is still being used.
http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91...xecutionm.html and here's another article on it: http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2003/05/22/Utah/
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yes i read the article. Just because it says "have chosen" doesn't mean they're not gonna get executed by a firing sqaud. i know there's a big possibility that they won't be but they still can be. If the article is correct "The nation's last execution by firing squad was in 1996." so someone did get executed by a firing squad in recent years. i'm gonna go try to find out more about this now.
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05-25-2003, 10:21 PM | #131 |
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If you ask me rotting away in a cell for the rest of your life when you are 19 or something dealing with that living hell every day of your life knowing theres no chance you will ever see freedom again is far worse then merciful death. Ive never really understood why the worst criminals get the mercy of dieing when the semi-bad get 40 years or something.
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There has been three hangings in the last 30 yrs as well :/
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/press/cp00pr.htm |
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Criminals sometimes get off. Some people have received three or four life sentences, and by circumstances have gotten out a few months later, instead. Many criminals were released in America earlier this year because the prisons were overloaded with people jailed for petty theft. It's more dangerous to keep real horrible villains alive then it is to keep someone responsible for stealing a car alive. |
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Yes, that's true. All those criminals being released for reasons of lack of room is a cause for major debate over those laws that condemn people to jailing.
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05-25-2003, 11:17 PM | #140 |
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Good grief! I wouldn't advise killing off several thousand prisoners to relax the living space, if that's what you thought! No. The primary reason for executing dangerous prisoners though is that they simply might get off. Like those that were released last year. To relax the living space in prisons, you relax laws as to who goes to prisons, or for how long. The death penalty is to keep an individual from doing any more harm, not so much to punish them for the harm they've done. If the goal were to punish them for the harm they've done, we'd use the torture methods Coney was advocating.
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