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11-26-2004, 02:23 PM | #122 |
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Congrats on post quota.
That was pretty much all I did understand of the last post. Sorry, I may enjoy watching and learning about US politics, but most of it is still beyond me. Besides this is a UK politics thread. If you're going to criticise anyone, criticise us.
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11-26-2004, 02:24 PM | #123 |
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Well, like I said I'm speaking from medical ignorance. I know that smoking has often been considered a "filthy habit", definitely not something to do in front of the ladies, and not something real gentleman did either (I'm mainly talking 19th century here). People may well have distrusted it - whether they knew the precise health risks is another question. Maybe inked will know the answer.
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11-26-2004, 02:26 PM | #124 |
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I was told in A level biology that it's only because people have been living longer that we've noticed the long term effects that their lifestyle can have, ie, cancer. Personally I don't want to live beyond 60, so I'm just going to light up...
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(NB: vengeful France, if you please, not the whole of Europe. Lloyd George sided with Wilson as far as he was politically able) Quote:
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11-26-2004, 02:31 PM | #126 | |
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Here's something I criticise the UK for - your damn surveillence cameras on the streets. Talk about the beginnings of big brother.
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11-26-2004, 02:34 PM | #127 |
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I wasn't trying for quota, but just happened to notice it when earlier today I reminded Nurv of my location!
Now, the world's (not just the UK, but the entire world's) problems are all due to one, and only one cause. LIFE. LIFE is a 100% terminal SEXUALLY-TRANSMITTED disease. If the governments of GB et alia can eliminate sex, within one generation they will have eliminated poverty, war, crime, disease, and the whole host of problems associated with verminous humans. Such a solution would be the ultimate in EQUALITY - social/political/gender/legal/et cetera ad nauseum discriminations would be eliminated; JUSTICE - same principle applied to everyone ('course the next generation won't gripe 'cause it won't exist); LIBERTY - all existent humans will be able to choose their final destination (pardon me for suggesting there are two!). So, eh? Shall we have GB apply the concept first and observe? Surely someone in your nanny-state will see the proposal and seek to act on it?
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11-26-2004, 02:45 PM | #130 |
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These tapes help solve crimes that otherwise wouldn't have been solved and some of these are extremly serious eg. murders
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NOTE: i have no problem with private companies or businesses choosing to use cameras - I do have a problem with the government doing it. It's like those ridiculous speed trap things they have in france where there isn't even a cop - just a machine on the side of the road that records the speed and issues the tickets.
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11-26-2004, 02:50 PM | #133 |
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Yet with out them criminals would be more at large as there is less of a chance of catching them and having a posotive ID and solid evidence.
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11-26-2004, 02:55 PM | #135 |
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Camera's aren't needed in houses as there are cameras in office blocks, car parks, shops etc. Most places are covered with some sort of security, usually cameras.
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With New Jersey's EZ-Pass system - it is written into the law that it can NOT be used for law enforcement or speed control. It would be very easy for them to calculate when a car enters a toll plaza and exits when they get off - and thus calculate their speed. It was a HUGE concern here and the citizens fought to have is stated that EZ-Pass can not be used in that way. We do have cameras on highways that are STATIONARY which you can use to see how traffic is - basic webcams - I have no problems with those - they don't zoom in or out on license plates, they just monitor traffic. BTW - I'm not necessarily talking about cameras in houses - what about just monitoring equipment to listen in on people's conversations. That way if a crime occurs - the police can be right there, or if someone discusses the crime - they'll be able to act. No where to run, no where to hide when big brother is looking over your shoulder 24/7.
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Well I personally would prefer to lose the little privacy that you lose from CCTV camera's and feel safe than vice versa, I'm sure there are Brits that agree and some that disagree with me.
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Similarly, it would be wrong if the cameras were pointed into people's windows, but not if they automatically took a picture of anyone running a red light at an intersection, for example. Are the cameras in Britain proposed or already in place? What are/will they be used for?
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Do you not trust your government, JD?
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