08-14-2006, 01:58 PM | #121 |
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08-14-2006, 03:09 PM | #122 | |
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Jamaica is very multi-cultural, I even have blond haired blue eyed cousins, my family is typically very mixed. Jamaica's motto is "Out of many, one people," and my fahter was very patriatic. He and the schools I went to drilled that into me, and I lived it, it was in me. I had asian (alot of chinese in jamaica man, not so many japanese) friends and I could remember that I never noticed them as chinese or even white friends. But that being said, I am not saying this is how the average jamaican lived or saw things; I had a serious issue with the way I approached the world and it has created alot of problems for me all my life. Especially when you deal with people who don't see things the way you do, like hear in the US. Wiether white, other black people or spanish people, very week and fearful behavior; I won't ever understand it...well not true, I now undrstand it's because of fear and the way I found that out is by asking myself why I don't feel that way, the answer was I don't fear them, I still only see jamaicans. You would be amazed how many answers you could get if you just asked yourself in that way. I remember my friends saying that I think I am white, (in my neighborhood some of my closest friends were born in america and lived in jamaica as well-just my luck-but I swear it was all for a reason, my life has been very strange) and I didn't get that attitude then but now I see, it was the way I approached other people, treating those as brothers, that society did not see as my brothers; I just saw jamaicans man, call me naive, I have been called that before.
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08-14-2006, 03:43 PM | #125 |
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However, we only have tribes because of manipulation, I don't believe it is a natural accurance.
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08-14-2006, 03:57 PM | #126 |
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Race is natural, much like the "herd instinct" among animals. You can see it in our closest relatives, the apes and monkeys.
For example, many of the issues that jews have faced over the centuries are in part a result of the fact that they have always choosen to exist as their own "tribe" within larger groups. Even when they lived within other nations, they often only married and socialized amongst their own "race", creating a natural barrier between themselves and the people around them. And another animalistic trait we still retain is the fear of those we don't know well. You see this on the arab side as well, where a shia might see a sunni as an enemy, until a jew was put into the picture. How far a certain group is from your own is proportional to the fear. The only real solution is getting to know one another, much like how the US became a nation of so many different cultures. But that takes both time and desire.
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so... you are advocating a mass coast to coast, week-long orgy?
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08-14-2006, 05:06 PM | #128 |
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Yikes!
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Gay sex with George W Bush doesn't even bear thinking about. Ugh.
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EDIT: Ok, I have to put it a different way. An arab boy born to a violent father, and lets say for the sake of it that he might be a terrorist-is NOT genetically a violent or terrorist person. But perhaps he has a "strong blood" in him: his father has strong genes or whatever... So let's say that there is a tribe who all have this "strong gene", and all their children do too. They live in harder conditions than most... We can say "there is nobody quite like the _____ up north, their race is a strong race."
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Hector... Once again... there is more genetic variation WITHIN "races" then BETWEEN them. Now if this doesnt make it clear that biological race is an illusion I dont know what else will.
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It's the genetics of society. You take on the characteristics of the society you mature in.
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*puts hands up* I surrender, I no longer want to talk about this subject. But what about this: What would happen if Iraq was divided into three sections?
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08-15-2006, 02:43 PM | #138 |
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you do realize that all this is leading back to the phraseology of Archie Bunker; i.e. whops, chinks, spics, coons, honkies, kikes, japs, jerries, etc., etc,
The more we eliminate the more we distinguish in other ways it seems. Perhaps one day there will be "the Human Fund" but until then, only George Costanza knows it exists. Lastly, we're way, way, far away from a Federation of Planets.
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08-23-2006, 01:58 PM | #139 |
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On a rather different subject:
Israel is just breaking this cease-fire truce with Hezbollah again and again. I haven't seen Hezbollah take any military action against Israel since the beginning of the truce, but I have hardly seen a day go by in which Israel doesn't do something to break it. They've shot down several Hezbollah fighters who hadn't done anything to them. They launched a raid deep into southern Lebanon that the UN said was a ceasefire violation. Today they fired rockets into a Lebanese village and captured two residents. And today they claimed, "there's an explosive situation on the ground in Lebanon! The cease-fire is running out of time!" Israel's own actions are the reason time is running out fast! How long is Hezbollah likely to refrain from retaliating against Israel's repeated attacks?
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No offense anyone, but my thinking is that this is getting a bit off-topic.
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