06-20-2003, 11:27 PM | #121 |
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Neither Red Hot Chili Peppers or MM should be in this topic, they both are no where near best guitarist.
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At least John Frusciente(sp) actually is a guitarist. The Chilis have interesting musical arrangements, a song like Californication modulates several times for example. |
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06-21-2003, 10:06 AM | #123 | |
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If I had to pick, I'd let the Peppers stay.
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06-21-2003, 01:39 PM | #124 |
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I like the Chili Peppers too.
My thoughts on MM are the same to this review: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Album: Antichirst Superstar Reviewing this from a musical standpoint is pointless; there is no music. Lots of eye candy, though. Like many a popular groups of the 90s, Marilyn Manson has casually shrugged off quality songcraft and intelligent lyrics for artificial, corporate driven intent and juvenile gimmicks. Not surprisingly, it has spawned hordes of misled, misinformed and maladjusted little dillweed goths (both onstage and off) squeezing every bit of respectability out of a genre that was once an underground mainstay, reduced to nothing more than a commercial joke now. So, hindered by their inability to excrete anything even within grasp of originality, we're stuck with this silly, drivellous mess. In true spooky goth fashion (ooohhh scary) the prerequisites: repetitive riffs, irritating filtered vocals, and typically sub-dued, quasi-industrial "beats", all amounting to what appears to be some wimpy attempt at a heavy industrial-goth hybrid. And the lyrics. Lots of "f***s" and "sh*ts" and religious inversion, something Altar and Suffocation have been espousing effectively for years (but without the stupid theatrical additives). Contrary to what the mainstream press will have you believe, Antichrist Superstar is about as musically and conceptually substantive as the Spice Girls, except not nearly as entertaining. The sum-total: transparent pleadings from an "artist" who longs to be as commercial and lame as his many inept Interscope labelmates. Trent Reznor, he ain't. But why harp on it? Just know this takes a cozy seat next to BUSH at the bottom rung of the creative ladder. Review by Lee Steadham Review date: 12/1998 |
06-21-2003, 09:53 PM | #125 |
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I will also agree with that. Mainstream music, or at least mainstream "metal" (and I use that term lightly), nowadays barely has any meaning. Both musically and lyrically its becoming more and more incoherent and retarded.
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ohhhh my god this is the biggest crock of **** i have ever heard .
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now to finish off ill just say that MM's music has become infinitely better with Mechanical Animals, Holywood and Golden Age of Grotesque. Have any of you actually listened to any Marilyn Manson or are you all talking out of your arse like this reviewer obviously is???
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06-22-2003, 09:54 AM | #127 |
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Dillweed? What's that about? I'm impressesd by that reviewer's acridity! Very nice!
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06-22-2003, 11:26 AM | #128 |
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Yes I have listened to Smells Like Children, Antichrist Superstar and Mechanical Animals, and that was enough. I think MM is complete garbage, thats my opinion and quite frankly your not going to change it.
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06-22-2003, 03:51 PM | #129 |
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06-22-2003, 06:07 PM | #131 |
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I have respect for MM and his views....I like some his music, and he does have meaning in his lyrics, if you listen to them. But he is not as talented as the Red Hot Chili Peppers. The Peppers have been around for like 20 years, and they have created their own unique sound. Which MM hasn't done.
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06-22-2003, 06:10 PM | #132 |
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ragnarok
[B]Neither Red Hot Chili Peppers or MM should be in this topic, they both are no where near best guitarist. Yes...I did create this thread to discuss great guitarists, but I'm really starting to enjoy this debate over MM and RHCP. |
06-22-2003, 09:18 PM | #133 |
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MM versus RHCP is interesting I guess...but I'd much rather hear Brian Setzer and Stevie Ray Vaughn (OK, I guess I'll settle for Jimmie Vaughn ) rip it out!
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06-22-2003, 10:45 PM | #134 |
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Why settle? Just pop an SRV CD in and listen and be amazed all over again.
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i challenge anyone to have a go at a MM song from Holywood, Mechanical Animals and the Golden Age of Grotesque... quality of lyrics HAHAHAHA Can I get your hand to write on Just a piece of lead to bite on What am I to fly my kite on Do you want to flash your light on Take a look its on display - for you Coming down no not today Did you meet your fortune teller Get it off with no propellor Do it up it's always stellar What a way to finally smell her Pick it up it's not to strong - for you Take a piece and pass it on Fly away on my Zephyr I feel it more then ever And in this perfect weather We'll find a place together Fly on my wing (WHAT UTTER TRASH )
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I read through some of MM lyrics and they seem juvenile compared to some of the bands I listen to.
This is from Opeth 10. Patterns In The Ivy 2 Without you I cannot confide in anything The hope is pale designed in light of dreams you bring Summer's gone, the day is done soon comes the night Biding time, leaving the line and out of sight It runs in me, your poison seething in my veins This skin is old and stained by late September rains A final word from me would be the first for you The rest is long but I'll go on inside and through One moonlit shadow on the wall Disrupted in its own creation Veiled in the darkness of this fall Is this the end - manifestation ~~~~~lets compare that to MM "Coma White" Something is cold and blank behind her smile She's standing on an overpass In her miracle mile [coma:] "You were from a perfect world A world that threw me away today Today to run away" A pill to make you numb A pill to make you dumb A pill to make you anybody else But all the drugs in this world Won't save her from herself Her mouth was an empty cut And she was waiting to fall Just bleeding like a polaroid that Lost all her dolls [coma:] "You were from a perfect world A world that threw me away today Today to run away" A pill to make you numb A pill to make you dumb [chorus repeat] Yes, I understand the message to his songs, but his songwriting skills suck. |
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My mouth was a crib and it was growing lies, I didnt know what, love was on that day, My hearts a tiny bloodclot, i picked at it, it never heals it never goes away. I burned all the good things in the Eden Eye, we were to dumb to run, to dead to die, I burned all the good things in the Eden Eye, we were to dumb to run, to dead to die. This was never my world, you took the angel away, i'd kill myself to make everybody pay, this was never my world, you took the angel away, i'd kill myself to make everybody pay.
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