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ah yes, the branch of the kennedy family people choose to forget... or at least try to...
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01-11-2008, 12:05 AM | #122 |
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My Ratings on the GOP South Carolina Debate
Fred Thompson just kicked butt in the South Carolina debate...Woohoo!!! I'm only disappointed that he didn't stick it to McCain on illegal immigration. Super.
Did Mitt do himself any good? Not really...and it wasn't a Mitt-Centered debate like the last two. He had one or two bright moments, but I felt his Ron Paul jab was quite tasteless...there are just too many opportunities for that, and it needs to stop. It stopped being funny after the first three debates. Bad. Huckabee did excellent in handling the questions, but you could TELL he was doing too good. The only answer I liked from him was the one defending his religion. Otherwise, slippery. OK. McCain kept tapping his "don't ever attack me on foreign policy" book. I think he did fine as regards to that, be kept on coming back to it too often. He did fine, but there were a lot of fizzles. OK. Ron Paul did himself a favor in this debate. He actually managed to make his case better tonight than on any other night, and managed to put down some criticisms. Good. Giuliani? What Giuliani? Bad performance...the moderator called on him to keep George Will OUT of his schtick, which was a good thing because I was getting sick of that myself. The Saudi Prince came up again though...bad bad bad.
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01-11-2008, 12:17 AM | #123 | |
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That all politicians are dishonest thing gets kinda tired quick, huh? What people fail to realise is that politics is about cooperation, at the end of the day. Cooperation, mediation, haggling, negotiation, etc, etc. If things went the way that idealists would like, we'd be living under a dictatorship. You have to get people on board with your policies, and that generally means compromise. It doesn't make you dishonest. It makes you a negotiator.
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01-11-2008, 12:25 AM | #124 |
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01-11-2008, 01:20 AM | #125 | |
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Hopefully, these men, after doing 'well', will go on to do 'good.'
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01-11-2008, 01:53 AM | #126 |
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Except I never used the word "Well" to describe any of their performances. Read closer.
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01-11-2008, 04:12 AM | #127 |
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LOL. He's got you there, sis
Absolutely right. It's lazy and negligent to think they are all the same. And it plays into the hands of the ones that are really dishonest. Last edited by The Gaffer : 01-11-2008 at 04:14 AM. |
01-11-2008, 11:08 AM | #128 | |
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Obviously, there are those that go way over the line, completely taking advantage of their position. But all politicians take advantage of their positions to small degrees to help those close to them, or causes dear to them I don't like the black and white litmus tests you often see, more typically among republican's, where one is assumed to be a saint and then, when even the smallest thing comes out (i.e. lies related to a previous marriage, a friend or two that got a job) one is assumed to be a demon. Some of our best leaders have had extremely questionable personal lives. Everyone's life is a mix of honesty vs. dishonesty, and everyone I know has done some dishonorable things at certain points in their lives. The measure to me is more the balance over the course of a lifetime.
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01-11-2008, 11:12 AM | #129 | |
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This doesn't mean that people are all the same, as some are more dishonest. Rather, it forces people to think in terms of degree, the grays of reality as opposed to the black and white of myth.
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01-11-2008, 11:34 AM | #130 | |
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Only if he has some evidence that debate performance partakes of the nature of "good", rather than of "adequacy". I've never seen that demonstrated, but I'm willing to hear the case.
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01-11-2008, 11:35 AM | #131 | ||
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So performances do matter, a lot.
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01-11-2008, 12:41 PM | #133 |
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I agree. A great deal of the job involves performance and public relations.
I'd like to think more of it involved actual conviction, but I'd probably be disappointed, there. I only pointed out the grammar because your points are so well observed that I hated to see a common mistake undermine them.
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01-11-2008, 12:56 PM | #134 |
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Do you approve of my corrections?
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01-11-2008, 02:21 PM | #135 |
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A true "political" response. Refuse to address the issue claiming that it is off-topic.
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01-11-2008, 02:41 PM | #136 |
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I haven't refused to address the issue. I've addressed it often, in places like the Philosophy thread. Your theory of the 'sinful nature of man' couldn't be addressed in the Science thread, for example.
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Everyone lies about ordinary things. The question is whether or not you lie about the extra-ordinary, and terribly important things that are a part of your job as president.
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Hey I can take all the hugs I can get *hugs back* Thanks sis
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01-11-2008, 08:39 PM | #140 |
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Well Sis, from your pov he may be describing sin, but the very definition of sin pre-supposes that he has to believe in God, before it can be ascribed as a sin from his pov, no?
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