Mel Gibson's Jesus movie

[Catgirl]

I saw this movie twice now, and I am a born again Christian, and for me, it was a good made movie that was very realistic and acurite to what happened. But, it did not 'touch' me very much. I guess it is because I already know what happened to my Christ, and I don't need a movie to verify what I believe.
I do think that it was a very good movie and I am glad Mel Gibson made it, but for me, it seems to be a movie that new believers or non-christians should go see so that they can see what Christ did for us. It does sort of clue a person in to what he all went through (even though they did not take it to the extremes like it was back then).
So, I would have to say that it was a good movie, especially when now-a-days gore and stuff like that is what people are interested in so they will go see it.

[jellyfishannah]

Originally posted by Rosie Gamgee
p.s. He is RISEN!

Truly He is Risen!

Lot's of you keep talking about not going to see it because of the violence. If you stay away from certain movies because of violence then you must have missed hundreds of wonderful movies including Braveheart, Saving Private Ryan...and lots of others. The point is not the violence. I was definitely wincing a lot of the time but this was a beautiful movie. Beautiful scenery, great acting, and a happy ending! It has good guys, bad guys, really good guys and really bad guys. You don't have to be a believer to see that this was a well-made movie worth seeing...

[b.banner]

Originally posted by Rosie Gamgee
Oh my gosh! This is a beautiful movie! I'm not trying to gush here or anything- I didn't cry either when I saw it (well, a few tears here and there, but I certainly didn't bawl)- but it was definately a beautiful movie. Jim.. (I can't spell his last name) did an excellent job of portraying Jesus, and with the exception of a few moments, I think he was pretty much flawless. The other actors did very well, IMO, most notably (to me) the fellows who played Pilate and Simon of Cyrene, and the woman who played Mary the mother of Jesus. Peter was great too, but then he's my favorite apostle. I thought Satan was done very well (although I didn't understand him holding that repulsive baby during the scourging scene- which, by the way, was one of the most powerful scenes in the movie).
My favorite parts in the movie were when Eve's Seed crushes the serpent under His heel, and the very end, when the Risen One walks away from the tomb- I felt like cheering both times.
I saw it last Saturday, and when I went into church on Sunday, I felt such an appreciation for what my Savior did for me! God is so good to me!!!

p.s. He is RISEN!

This is exactly my reaction after seeing the movie! I've now seen it twice and it seemed just as surprising both times. It made me respect Mel Gibson more, and Jim Cavziel as well.

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by jellyfishannah
Its funny...I was speaking to my sister about the movie before it was released. We were talking about how people were saying things about Gibson making the Jews look evil in the film and all that. I kept saying "Well, there are so many movies about the holocaust that, of course, make the Germans in it look very wicked. No one ever said that was wrong." And later, I watched an interview with Mel Gibson and he used the same example!

But is the murder of one man, great and important as he is, equal to the murder of 6 millioms? NO.
The Nazi German were "wicked" much more than the Jews even if they killed Jesus. It's wrong to compare the holocaust with the crucifiction (sp.) of Jesus.
And if he used that example, he's a jerk.

And I have nothing against your believes or Christianity, really. I just happen to be born Jewish and therefore not to believe in Jesus.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
What I meant was that if Jesus was Celtic, then the Celts would have had the same beliefs as the Jews did, if that makes sense, because God would have started with a Celtic "Abraham", and brought him out of his own country, and had him have a "son of the flesh" (Ishmael) and a "son of faith" (Isaac)

I'm not sure I agree with you; I don't remember Ishmael ever being a part of God's plan, though I could be wrong...

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by GrayMouser
Well, He may already have expressed His opinion:



http://edition.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/...ibson.passion/

Now that's being a tough Reviewer

You forgot to mention the miracles. Also, I think that you are wrong; while Mel does attend Tridentine Mass only, if I am correct, I believe he is in fact in communion with the Holy See; the various extremist right-wing quote end quote "traditionalists" are not.

[hectorberlioz]

Originally posted by Lizra
I can't imagine why I would want to sit through 2 hours of watching someone (and a supposedly really wonderful someone at that) being graphically tortured to death. I mean, isn't that basically what this is? Gosh, After that depressing ordeal, I'd start thinking of the thousands of other people who met the same fate as Jesus of Naz., then on to the countless hordes persecuted in the coliseum, then all the gazillions who had lord knows what I don't even know about done.... I think I'll pass on this cinematic moment.

I strongly advise you to go see it my dear.
it is NOT at ALL only gory scenes.
it is a powerful, moving, heart breaking, heart wrenching film.
ignore those crap critics on this one. GO SEE IT.
you too Nurvingiel!

[Nurvingiel]

I don't know if I can handle it, I know it's not 100% gore, but the serious violence is there.

[hectorberlioz]

Originally posted by Millane
well ive seen it and im very anti-christianity and all but i did appreciate this movie as a damn fine film, well made, well cast, good story etc, its not really focusing that much on the spiritual side, to me it seems to be the more 'real' side to the story, and you can respect Jesus for what he went through...

I respect yuo for that; because you respected it; even though you arent christian.
its nice to hear some positive about this movie from someone who isnt christian.

[Millane]

it seems to be a movie that new believers or non-christians should go see so that they can see what Christ did for us. It does sort of clue a person in to what he all went through (even though they did not take it to the extremes like it was back then).

not at all, i could see what he went through for his own beliefs, i fail to see how him dying helped me....
RtB made some great points, if you think that Jesus's life=6million (or over), you must either glorify Jesus to an astonishing extent or hold a queer value of human life, both wrong to me...

I respect yuo for that; because you respected it; even though you arent christian.
its nice to hear some positive about this movie from someone who isnt christian.

thankyou and i dont think whether or not you are Christian should at all interfere with your judgement of this film, it is a great movie. that also translates into underage people going to see it, regardless of your censorship views you can't make allowances for a movie just because it promotes Christianity it should be the same for all movies...

[Arien the Maia]

I went and saw it last night. I twas ectrememly moving for me...sort of intense as well. I think the most powerful parts for me were the ones with Satan in them. Especially when they show his defeat at the end. I too didn't understand the whole baby scene though? what was that about?

[hectorberlioz]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
But is the murder of one man, great and important as he is, equal to the murder of 6 millioms? NO.
The Nazi German were "wicked" much more than the Jews even if they killed Jesus. It's wrong to compare the holocaust with the crucifiction (sp.) of Jesus.
And if he used that example, he's a jerk.

And I have nothing against your believes or Christianity, really. I just happen to be born Jewish and therefore not to believe in Jesus.

geez, dont get so riled up about it.
we're not asking you to accept christianity or anything.
but I take it you havent even seen the film yet, so how would you know if it was anti semitic?
jfishannah was simply saying that just because some nation's ancestors did bad things doesnt mean that that particular nation is evil.
she was defending you, and so was gibson.

[hectorberlioz]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
I don't know if I can handle it, I know it's not 100% gore, but the serious violence is there.

no. not at all. nothing worse than you've seen before.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by Millane
not at all, i could see what he went through for his own beliefs, i fail to see how him dying helped me....

I thought your parents sent you to Catholic school?

In response to the other, Christians believe that the life of Jesus Christ was worth not just the lives, but the souls of all mankind from the dawning to the sealing of time. That is not to say that the Jews are any more guilty for His death than I or Rian is; they did not kill Him, He laid down His life.

[hectorberlioz]

correct. we all crucified him, but it was meant to be in rder for the salvation of man's soul.

[GrayMouser]

Originally posted by jellyfishannah
I did not post above ^^ review, btw.

I have seen the movie twice. A very powerful and well-done film. My thing is, I'm not sure if it really is appropriate to depict Christ in any movie, play or whatever. Only because, I just don't think any person can even try to understand the enormity of this sacrifice.

Its funny...I was speaking to my sister about the movie before it was released. We were talking about how people were saying things about Gibson making the Jews look evil in the film and all that. I kept saying "Well, there are so many movies about the holocaust that, of course, make the Germans in it look very wicked. No one ever said that was wrong." And later, I watched an interview with Mel Gibson and he used the same example!

Wow! Mel Gibson said that about the Germans and the Holocaust?

What a surprise!

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
geez, dont get so riled up about it.
we're not asking you to accept christianity or anything.
but I take it you havent even seen the film yet, so how would you know if it was anti semitic?
jfishannah was simply saying that just because some nation's ancestors did bad things doesnt mean that that particular nation is evil.
she was defending you, and so was gibson.

And I wasn't saying you asked me to accept anything.

The movie might not be anti-semitic, but I wasn't furious about the movie - I was about the comment.

From what I understand - she said that it is right to show the Jews as 'wicked' for murdering Jesus, as it is right to show the German wicked for murdering 6 million people.
I can't really see how you can compare between the two. Even if the Jews tried to kill Jesus - were they 'evil'? I think the precepts in the Bible say that you mustn't say you're God - punishment is death. (like many other punishments). The Jews simply followed the precepts, they weren't wicked even if they killed Jesus (and they didn't).
The Nazis, on the other hand, killed 6 millions people without an explanation nor reason.

I do not blame the Germans until now, and I don't think many Christians blame the Jews until now - but the comparison is outrageous in my opinion.

[HOBBIT]

You cannot really compare the two - you are right.

1 man, no matter how great you think he was does not equate to 6 million plus jews and millions of other groups of people.

I have things of new waves of anti-semitism due to this movie, but I don't see why.

There is absolutely no proof of Jesus even existing, let alone who "killed" him.

Most importantly, if he hadn't been killed, the whole christian religion would not even exist - so if jews were responsible you should thank them not hate them.

[Artanis]

I saw the trailer to this movie last night. Those torture scenes were a solid blow to my gut. I've seen worse things than this before, but this was very realistic. I think I'll try to watch the movie anyway, because it is really a moving story, whether you believe ot not.

And now I'm curious to why some people say it is an anti-semitic movie.

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by Artanis
And now I'm curious to why some people say it is an anti-semitic movie.

I don't think the movie itself is anti-semitic.
But it leads to more anti-semitism incidents - and so I do think it has some anti-semitism in it, of some sort.
I haven't seen teh movie yet, if I see it at all - so I can't tell you why.