"Fellowship of the Ring" Trivia - Page 62

Ultimatejoe · 05-13-2004, 10:11 PM

Look, I know this is a friendly place, but I'd stow the ego, and fast buddy.

The Encyclopedia of Arda contains a lot of information that is conjectural or plain hypocryphal, and your dependence on it bellies what YOU understand.

Oh, and that was nice that you copied the text from that page word for word. Surely someone as gifted as yourself is capable of writing their own answer.

As for the substance of your answer: there are certain dubieties of the english language that do in fact make the answer less "logical and literal" than you may seem. Does a sculptor make a statue, or does the chisel? The uncertainty in answering that question stems from the subjective interpretation of the question. In the case of your question, the word "what" does not exclude the possibility of a person being the answer, as I'm sure someone as smart as you is well aware. Now, your answer is right, but it is by no mean the exclusive answer. On top of that, the fact remains that a tool does nothing without a guiding influence of some sort. While a car propels people from one place to another, a car doesn't drive, a person does. In the same way, the pen you refer to may have performed the interactions that resulted in moon letters, but these were guided by the hands of the dwarves. Your subjective interpretation of the question is, in my humble opinion, a rather poor one when considering this; even if it is not entirely inaccurate.

Lizra · 05-13-2004, 11:12 PM

Gentlemen!

Temper temper!

Spock....I did a brief check in the chapter "A Journey in the Dark" and did not find the silver pens mentioned. (I do remember this being mentioned in The Hobbit though.

) If I am missing it, could you direct me to the passage please? The rules in the first post do request that the answers must be found in The Fellowship of the Ring.....

Ultimate Joe, I think Spock was teasing you, and surely he meant it goodnaturedly!

Please don't be offended!

Cirdan · 05-13-2004, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lizra
Ultimate Joe, I think Spock was teasing you, and surely he meant it goodnaturedly! Please don't be offended!

Give UJ a break, he's been spending "quality time" with JD in another thread.

Lizra · 05-13-2004, 11:57 PM

Yes, well, I think I'll just bite my lip now.

Everybody gets a break!

Radagast The Brown · 05-14-2004, 05:14 AM

Spock, can the answer be found in LotR? I searched for it and didn't find any mention of silver pens.

UJ - although I do believe you're right, I think you could have been more... eh, friendly, when saying that... I don't get it, what made you so angry?

So who asks the next question?

Spock · 05-14-2004, 06:09 AM

..RGB, I'd asked V. to post the next question in order to facilitate things but as he's busy now, perhaps you'd be kind enough to.

Thanks to those who know me a bit longer and my method of posting for their understanding.
Thanks too, Lizra ,for correctly pointing out to me that my memory skipped and remembered from the Hobbit....this is old news to some, but all my books are still packed awaiting the day when we move....which should have been last month and now looks like it will be next month....oy veh!

Cirdan, thanks for your attempt to cool the flames aimed at me...I don't ever remember encountering such animosity on this board.

Ultimatejoe · 05-14-2004, 11:00 AM

Look, it's not like I want to lynch the guy or anything, I just thought the attitude was way over the top. Condascension is my major pet peeve and he is still engaged in it.

***azalea*** · 05-14-2004, 03:18 PM

This matter is now closed for discussion. Please return to asking/ answering trivia questions. Radagast TB, I believe the ball has been thrown to you.

Radagast The Brown · 05-14-2004, 04:54 PM

Yes. New question then... What does Frodo dream when sleeping during a snow storm in Caradhras?

Spock · 05-14-2004, 05:10 PM

That he was back in Hobbiton tending the garden?

Radagast The Brown · 05-14-2004, 05:27 PM

Lizra · 05-14-2004, 06:31 PM

He dreamt of being beside the fireplace with Bilbo, and Bilbo critisized his diary entry.

Radagast The Brown · 05-14-2004, 06:52 PM

Correc.t

Lizra · 05-14-2004, 07:10 PM

What was found on the bridge of Mitheithel?

Spock · 05-14-2004, 08:12 PM

A green leaf broach?

Lizra · 05-14-2004, 10:05 PM

No...not that.

Ultimatejoe · 05-14-2004, 11:15 PM

A greenstone left from Glorfindel. (The exact name of the gem eludes me. It's a real stone though.)

***Valandil*** · 05-15-2004, 06:54 AM

Was it a 'beryl'?

Lizra · 05-15-2004, 12:42 PM

Yes to both of you! Let's see if UJ can stump us!

(I sure would like a beryl! I imagine it looking like large, round, shimmering peridot. )

Ultimatejoe · 05-15-2004, 02:41 PM

How many people in the LoTR narrative is Aragorn related to (before marriage)?

05-13-2004, 10:11 PM	#1221
Ultimatejoe Enting Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Trent University, Peterborough Posts: 53	Look, I know this is a friendly place, but I'd stow the ego, and fast buddy. The Encyclopedia of Arda contains a lot of information that is conjectural or plain hypocryphal, and your dependence on it bellies what YOU understand. Oh, and that was nice that you copied the text from that page word for word. Surely someone as gifted as yourself is capable of writing their own answer. As for the substance of your answer: there are certain dubieties of the english language that do in fact make the answer less "logical and literal" than you may seem. Does a sculptor make a statue, or does the chisel? The uncertainty in answering that question stems from the subjective interpretation of the question. In the case of your question, the word "what" does not exclude the possibility of a person being the answer, as I'm sure someone as smart as you is well aware. Now, your answer is right, but it is by no mean the exclusive answer. On top of that, the fact remains that a tool does nothing without a guiding influence of some sort. While a car propels people from one place to another, a car doesn't drive, a person does. In the same way, the pen you refer to may have performed the interactions that resulted in moon letters, but these were guided by the hands of the dwarves. Your subjective interpretation of the question is, in my humble opinion, a rather poor one when considering this; even if it is not entirely inaccurate. __________________ "Is that anything like a cemetary? 'Cause I need to take a leak."

05-13-2004, 11:12 PM	#1222
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Gentlemen! Temper temper! Spock....I did a brief check in the chapter "A Journey in the Dark" and did not find the silver pens mentioned. (I do remember this being mentioned in The Hobbit though. ) If I am missing it, could you direct me to the passage please? The rules in the first post do request that the answers must be found in The Fellowship of the Ring..... Ultimate Joe, I think Spock was teasing you, and surely he meant it goodnaturedly! Please don't be offended! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

05-13-2004, 11:57 PM	#1224
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Yes, well, I think I'll just bite my lip now. Everybody gets a break! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

05-14-2004, 05:14 AM	#1225
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Spock, can the answer be found in LotR? I searched for it and didn't find any mention of silver pens. UJ - although I do believe you're right, I think you could have been more... eh, friendly, when saying that... I don't get it, what made you so angry? So who asks the next question? __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-14-2004, 11:00 AM	#1227
Ultimatejoe Enting Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Trent University, Peterborough Posts: 53	Look, it's not like I want to lynch the guy or anything, I just thought the attitude was way over the top. Condascension is my major pet peeve and he is still engaged in it. __________________ "Is that anything like a cemetary? 'Cause I need to take a leak."

05-14-2004, 06:09 AM	#1226
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	..RGB, I'd asked V. to post the next question in order to facilitate things but as he's busy now, perhaps you'd be kind enough to. Thanks to those who know me a bit longer and my method of posting for their understanding. Thanks too, Lizra ,for correctly pointing out to me that my memory skipped and remembered from the Hobbit....this is old news to some, but all my books are still packed awaiting the day when we move....which should have been last month and now looks like it will be next month....oy veh! Cirdan, thanks for your attempt to cool the flames aimed at me...I don't ever remember encountering such animosity on this board.

05-14-2004, 03:18 PM	#1228
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	This matter is now closed for discussion. Please return to asking/ answering trivia questions. Radagast TB, I believe the ball has been thrown to you.

05-14-2004, 04:54 PM	#1229
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Yes. New question then... What does Frodo dream when sleeping during a snow storm in Caradhras? __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-14-2004, 05:10 PM	#1230
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	That he was back in Hobbiton tending the garden? __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

05-14-2004, 05:27 PM	#1231
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	No. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-14-2004, 06:31 PM	#1232
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	He dreamt of being beside the fireplace with Bilbo, and Bilbo critisized his diary entry. __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

05-14-2004, 06:52 PM	#1233
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Correc.t __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-14-2004, 07:10 PM	#1234
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	What was found on the bridge of Mitheithel? __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

05-14-2004, 08:12 PM	#1235
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	A green leaf broach?

05-14-2004, 10:05 PM	#1236
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	No...not that. __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

05-14-2004, 11:15 PM	#1237
Ultimatejoe Enting Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Trent University, Peterborough Posts: 53	A greenstone left from Glorfindel. (The exact name of the gem eludes me. It's a real stone though.) __________________ "Is that anything like a cemetary? 'Cause I need to take a leak."

05-15-2004, 06:54 AM	#1238
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Was it a 'beryl'? __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

05-15-2004, 12:42 PM	#1239
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Yes to both of you! Let's see if UJ can stump us! (I sure would like a beryl! I imagine it looking like large, round, shimmering peridot. ) __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats! Last edited by Lizra : 05-15-2004 at 12:44 PM.

05-15-2004, 02:41 PM	#1240
Ultimatejoe Enting Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Trent University, Peterborough Posts: 53	How many people in the LoTR narrative is Aragorn related to (before marriage)? __________________ "Is that anything like a cemetary? 'Cause I need to take a leak."

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