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Old 03-01-2004, 12:31 AM   #101
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Old 03-01-2004, 12:32 AM   #102
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*sigh* It won best adapted :/

Not really any suprise, since at least people KNOW it came from a book, and a great one at that.
I haven't seen City of God, but the clips they keep showing makes it the film I most want to see next, looks really different and amazing.
But, as we all know, the oscars don't particularly reflect actual film achievements.

Har! My girlfriend just described Philipa Boyens as looking like an ugly beggar!
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Old 03-01-2004, 12:35 AM   #103
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Har! My girlfriend just described Philipa Boyens as looking like an ugly beggar!
Hey - I think Jackson came up in the world - he's actually wearing shoes tonight I think.
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Old 03-01-2004, 12:44 AM   #104
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Tolkien is now spinning at sub-sonic speed. I can't believe a hack like Jackson has won. It figures though - who in Hollywood even read the books, we know most of the actors didn't.

And Jackson never even mentioned Tolkien in his acceptance speech. Figures.

Funny how Billy Crystal mentioned Jackson wearing shoes though.
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Old 03-01-2004, 01:06 AM   #105
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yelp they got it
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Old 03-01-2004, 01:07 AM   #106
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billy crystals song about LOTR was funny
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Old 03-01-2004, 01:07 AM   #107
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Tolkien is now spinning at light speed and heading off out into the galaxy and beyond.

Best picture - what a crock and he doesn't even acknowledge Tolkien. Like he even cared about the books. A TRUE fan would have had Tolkien at the top of the list of people to thank. At least Fran Walsh had thanked Tolkien in her previous speech.
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Old 03-01-2004, 01:08 AM   #108
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Clean sweep 11 it is, so RotK is now officially the joint top oscar winning film of all time.
Ironic considering FotR was the best of the lot

Still, an epic achievement, even if it shares little with the source - well played to them all really.

Regarding reading the books - my biggest faves of the film where christopher lee (avid tolkien fan), ian mckellan (read the book) and viggo (not read it, but spent vast amount of efforts getting into character even if it was the PJ coward Aragorn).

I think it's no coincidence I like the actors who made the most efforts in the film.

BTW someone else thanked Tolkien, but yeah PJ forgot to mention him
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Old 03-01-2004, 01:10 AM   #109
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BTW someone else thanked Tolkien, but yeah PJ forgot to mention him
Fran Walsh did previously - but jackson won two awards and NEVER mentioned Tolkien. So much for him being a fan.
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Old 03-01-2004, 01:14 AM   #110
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ya barrie osbourne thanked tolkein as well. PJ is a jerk for not mentioning tolkein.
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OH YEA!!!!!! clean sweep! and its tied for most ever! if ONLY it had been nominated for Cinamatography!
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ya barrie osbourne thanked tolkein as well. PJ is a jerk for not mentioning tolkein.
I always said jackson's constant mention of Tolkien before was just for PR purposes. That is quite obvious now that when he doesn't need to ride on the coat tails of Tolkien's name - he doesn't even mention Tolkien.
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I remember when FotR was edged out by ABM, and everyone said they were waiting for the final installment to give out their love. Very true!!

The trilogy already won for cinematography and sound effects editing previously, but it would've been cool to get all that this year for an official record-breaker, not tie . And the poor actors who got no individual recognition.

But those are quibbles. LotR wins!!
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WOOHOOO!!! Finally, a true fantasy film has won for the very first time! Now, give us some more good fantasy films, please, Hollywood!
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The actors deserved the academy awards more than the pseudo-fan Jackson. At least the actors never claimed to be a fan of the books and they actually did a good job with what they were given to work with. Jackson was given a great book and reduced it down to action and comic relief.
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Hi, everybody!
Hey, don't forget Ian McKellan's mention of Tolkien, and I know a couple of other people thanked him, I guess some of the tech award people.
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If only Sean Astin had gotten a best supporting actor nomination and win...

It's still a great night.
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But I was happy to see all the noms and wins he's (Sean Astin, I mean)gotten from other groups (see previous page). I bet he's been busy, since surely he went to at least a few of those ceremonies!
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The actors deserved the academy awards more than the pseudo-fan Jackson. At least the actors never claimed to be a fan of the books and they actually did a good job with what they were given to work with. Jackson was given a great book and reduced it down to action and comic relief.

Actually Elijah Wood wanted the role so bad that he dressed up as a hobbit and sent in an audition tape too Jackson. Besides I don't think that unless anyone on these boards know Peter Jackson personally, then we are in no position to judge whether or not he is a true fan of the book. It has been clear from the beginning that each of us have our own opnion of how the movie should have looked and what should have been included. I personally think he did an excellent translating the books into a movie. They aren't perfect, but they are by far the best anybody has done thus far. And yes I have read the books.
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