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Old 03-19-2003, 01:45 PM   #101
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Hey we should give the french a break. I mean after all if it wasnt for the French at Yorktown Tony Blair would be our leader today!
I highly disagree. We've more than paid France back for something they did over 225 years ago! Since that time, we have more than paid France off with our own blood, sweat and money! The converse should be said, they owe us, considering we helped them save their country twice in the past century...
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Old 03-19-2003, 07:01 PM   #102
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ok give them a break. we paid them back more than we needed to, so if a problem arises in the US they can help us. theyre everyday people too ya know.

ahem, how many are with me when i say "IMPEACH BUSH!?"
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Old 03-19-2003, 07:07 PM   #103
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Not me. And as Bush is the president of the United States, only Americans need apply.
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Old 03-19-2003, 07:14 PM   #104
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Not me either. He has the support of the majority of AMERICANS.

In a year and a half Americans will be able to state whether they want bush for another 4 years or not. As it stands he has not done anything which is impeachable. He even went to Congress to get approval for military action against Iraq - which they overwhelmingly gave him.
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Old 03-19-2003, 07:55 PM   #105
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I think Bush is the only Presidential Canidate who could have handled this mass chaos and hysteria, but I ride the fence on the issue of bombing and wiping out Hussein.

"People will die (Con), less people will then die in the long run (Pro)" thinking.

I think it will, in the long run, have a possitive outcome for the Iraqi's and Kurds, but a negative slant to the way the world views America.
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Old 03-19-2003, 07:58 PM   #106
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ok give them a break. we paid them back more than we needed to, so if a problem arises in the US they can help us. theyre everyday people too ya know.

ahem, how many are with me when i say "IMPEACH BUSH!?"
How many are with me when I say "14 year olds need to learn more about the world before saying such rash things?"
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Old 03-19-2003, 08:03 PM   #107
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Me.

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Guess what caught my interest...
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Old 03-19-2003, 08:13 PM   #108
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How many are with me when I say "14 year olds need to learn more about the world before saying such rash things?"
I'm not sure because there are just as many adults who make such statements or say even more ridiculous things - like "war isn't even the answer in self-defence".

Some of the protesters have made the most stupid comments. Some even believe that if we had intelligence information showing that one of our cities is about to be nuked - we can not take action until after it actually happens.

I just wish people would read the Constitution more and learn the way the US government works. Also - The Federalist Papers and The Anti-Federalist Papers would help too.
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Old 03-19-2003, 08:17 PM   #109
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How many are with me when I say "14 year olds need to learn more about the world before saying such rash things?"
or maybe they just need to be taught a little bit about the constitution. so they can focus their understandable feelings of frustration toward their president in a way that doesnt make them look clueless. Wheres Jersey? Im sure he can pull up some tidbits on Impeachment and how it actually applies through the constitution.

EDIT: HA HA! He beat me to it.
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Old 03-19-2003, 08:25 PM   #110
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or maybe they just need to be taught a little bit about the constitution. so they can focus their understandable feelings of frustration toward their president in a way that doesnt make them look clueless. Wheres Jersey? Im sure he can pull up some tidbits on Impeachment and how it actually applies through the constitution.

EDIT: HA HA! He beat me to it.
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Old 03-19-2003, 08:43 PM   #111
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How many are with me when I say "14 year olds need to learn more about the world before saying such rash things?"
How many here are sick of the blatant racism and ageism prevelant in this thread?
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:03 PM   #112
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How many here are sick of the blatant racism and ageism prevelant in this thread?
I am. Just cause there's alot of young people so easily influenced by the media and such doesn't mean we all are. Adults are just as bad anyway. Espeically actors and actresses. Hollywoodhalfwits.com.
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not me.
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:07 PM   #113
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What racism?
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:12 PM   #114
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What racism?
o_O would you post on these boards if you were French?
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:15 PM   #115
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Perhaps you've got better eyes than me. You mind giving quotes?
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:18 PM   #116
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I think Bush is the only Presidential Canidate who could have handled this mass chaos and hysteria, but I ride the fence on the issue of bombing and wiping out Hussein.

"People will die (Con), less people will then die in the long run (Pro)" thinking.

I think it will, in the long run, have a possitive outcome for the Iraqi's and Kurds, but a negative slant to the way the world views America.
That depends. If we find WMDs and have success in our goals, I think people will see our invasion as justified. Only if we come back with oil rather than chemicals, then there will cause major American bashing. And with good cause (Not that I believe that will happen at all).
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:34 PM   #117
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Why not? I'm American, and I've seen worse things said about America than France.
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:35 PM   #118
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ahem, how many are with me when i say "IMPEACH BUSH!?"
Not me either.

I think many people my age jst listen to what they hear and believe it - some without checking the facts. I try to remain 'politically informed', for my own sake.

I agree with Elven Archer about the actors and actresses thing. Was it just me, or did the Grammys this year just seem like a big long peace rally?

BTW-How much time left until Hussein's 48 hour time limit is up?
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Why not? I'm American, and I've seen worse things said about America than France.
So nice to see international politics reduced to tit-for-tat between nations on a message board
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:41 PM   #120
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Sorry, I didn't get that at all. I can be downright stupid sometimes.
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